Pimax Frontier October 25th, 10am PDT

Hopes that Pimax could implement The Full Field of View 360 with a good lenses or at least it’s working in something similar.

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No i doubt it although you have got me thinking. Surely they wont.

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As long as it does some things substantially better (hopefully new lenses!!) this will be a 100% sure buy for me. Just hoping that Pimax will reveal the core specs, otherwise this is going to be a waste of time.

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Idealistic Hopes: Announcement of a ground-breaking product Reality which is going to be released in the coming 3 months, in a good shape with ease of use, polish & reliability. (clearly not going to happen)

More Realistic Expectations: A lot of marketing mumble, but with the prototype of Reality being shown but no clear short-term avaibility and over-promising on specs (just like the wireless module and Sword Sense controllers which never materialized), leaving us with a “sure, sounds good, but let’s wait and see what they deliver when the day comes, and in which state it is

Fears: None of the above, just a marketing exercise to remain in the conversation with lots of lofty promises for some vague future products, Reality not even being in prototype stage yet but just a mere design study, 10K, microOLED, wireless, you name it, but all of it stated to be road map with complete obscurity as to when these will materialize in which combination in which product. Comparable to the Oculus tweets of last week, which don’t give us any idea whatsoever if that is 6 months or 8 years away…

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Fortunately historically 0% of your predictions here have been accurate or even in the ballpark. You are just trying to set a negative stage just in case we announce anything people might like.

For those reading this - this is the same person who repeatedly said we were bankrupt and worse among a large number of other things that turned out totally wrong. He said we would never be able to release the 8KX or deliver the MAS for some other examples.

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if it is one of pimax’s usual preorder events to collect money and then the customers have to wait for months or years. invest the money in stocks and wait until pimax finally delivers something good, and then decide.

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I’m not a fan of paid pre-orders and if it ever comes up will lobby against it. I would be more in favor of a small deposit for any popular new item essentially as a placeholder in line.

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I have no problem with paid pre-order, if company can be honest about the ‘real’ progress on release schedule and demonstrated in the past the ability to stick to what was promised.

Just come clean and honest if there are delays or issues to be sorted out, I will be perfectly fine with a sincere response. I will however never be ok with a response just to pass me off, and I can’t stress enough the importance of this issue, as this is a huge deciding factor to either become a fan of a good product or a naysayer to discourage everyone else to stay away from this good product.

So far I can say pimax deliver pretty much everything it said it would, but the process did not give me that confidence that they would, but the fact remains I got what I paid for, So overall I had a good experience.

Something I would personly like to see pimax improve on, to convince me on future purchases.

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i think you didn’t understand me. i don’t want to stand in any queue. i go to the store and buy it myself, or order it online. and if I do not like it, I make use of my right of withdrawal. I don’t think much of what your employer does is okay. is a completely different topic.

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Then don’t and simply wait until whatever product it is shows up at Amazon or Walmart. If you don’t like a company etc. why are you even bothering to post about it? We get it you don’t like Pimax, you’ve said it 1,000 times.

can you prove that somehow? I know what research and development means. especially with new things that no one has tried to mass produce. the products are in all vehicles, in the radio, navigation,in the tires cameras, seats, coatings on all surfaces: up to the b2 bomber camouflage coating, fuel cell, oled… what I hate the most is poor quality and service. if you feel moved by my statements, too bad. many customers and even more colleagues appreciate this open and honest approach.

Edit:
our company has Tesla in-house this week. we try their tools on our machines and prepare the production for November. I compare pimax to this company, a startup that everyone smiles at. the ridge to “verkacken” is really narrow. We as end users are not beta testers, hobbyists, we do not want poor quality. so brace yourselves, this works!

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If that was what you were doing then yeah, honest and “open” is great we have plenty of people critical here in that way.

But it’s not at all what you are do. You are here for one reason only - to trash Pimax with every post or agree when others who do. You have not deviated from this for years. There are only a very small number of posters here who are here with that purpose.

I know it’s not your job to improve the product. to sell what is on the table, no matter what and when. looking forward to the event.

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Now, now guys back to your corners.

Lets keep the speculation friendly. :slight_smile:

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Updated press releases are going out with more info about the event and partnerships. We’ll post them here as they become available.

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:joy:

So when some user asks the other users to post their hopes, expectation & fears about the upcoming event, you apparently consider my opinions to carry a LOT of weight as if I had insider information and the other users knew ? Aaaw, that‘s so cute. Thank you!

(I will note that as confirmation that my assumptions at the time about Pimax‘ financial status were pretty spot on, thanks for that)

Anyway, Kevin, don‘t worry: we will see after 25/10. And of course after 6 and 12 months, and so on.

As to the value of announcements: as mentioned, we still are awaiting the materialization of the wireless module and sword sense controllers, all promised during a big marketing event in 2017. Four years later still MIA. How about those ?

So that‘s why I have cautious expectations about Pimax marketing events. There may be a lot of promises on 25/10, but the track record of making them true is certainly not 100%, so we‘ll need a big grain of salt here.

Experience, not negativity.

There is a big difference between these two.

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Heh that’s funny. 0% of your stuff has turned out to be true or even close to true. This will be no different.

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Okay, so you say that this time Pimax will hit 100% of its announcements to be made on 25/10 ?

Noted.

In this thread I simply said that I have my doubts about Pimax making all true of what they announce (and as a result I will not necessarily hold back on purchases of competing devices with less features or lower specs on paper).

I do not understand why this is so difficult to understand.

As a customer you have learned to distinguish between companies with aggressive marketing who tend to over-promise and others who deliver exactly as announced. Daily customer experience. In my books Pimax has shown a tendency to over-promise. Not due to malicious intent, but rather a case of over-excited engineer syndrome. But the motivation doesn’t matter that much at the end - the end result matters.

Need exhibits ? Product being dubbed 8K while not being 8K; wireless module still missing after 4 years, with no visibility if and when it will arrive. Eye-Tracking while having been released, hasn’t been successfully been put to use by a substantial number of users (which to me as a consumer is actually the worst case of failure to implement a feature because I even paid for it).

So if we are presented with Pimax announcements and comparing them to those of other companies, we obviously take the track record of the relevant company into account when weighing in on them.

But okay, you are outraged about it and say 0% of it will turn out to be true.

Time will tell, Kevin.

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No I’m saying that your previous predictions are always wrong.

We are still here when you predicted we wouldn’t be.

8KX, 8K+, Artisan all exist and shipped when you said we wouldn’t. MAS shipped with 3 options and is upgradable when you said would never happen. All accessories and modules exist and are in peoples hands except for a joystick feature and a wireless module which you focus your entire diatribe on. (Strange isn’t it you focus entirely on that.) It’s like talking about Starlink Internet totally in the context of how it can block astronomy. You also say 8K is fake (a famous diatribe from posters like heaney555, when we know it’s indeed 8k wide and that is indeed part of the standard) but you press it anyway. The headsets really do offer the widest FOV of any mass produced device. Period.

What’s more amazing we released most of these things during a worldwide pandemic in difficult circumstances when almost NO vr products were released. We managed to actually grow considerably during that time.

Bottom line all your posts revolve around the same thing. You attempt to create as much fear as possible via deductions that have no basis in fact. The theme is the same, Pimax bankrupt and therefore will never deliver 8KX, MAS, Sword etc. to create fear and doubt so customers who own Pimax are afraid and those who don’t avoid the company.

Your new thing is Pimax might announce something but… Same theme as all your other posts that turned out to be incorrect.

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