I asked the tester and he didn’t give me exact numbers, but they said there’s no real big difference in the FoV with or without parallel projections. That’s not really surprising, given how most PP on/off comparisons on Risa had minimal difference, bar 1-2 outliers, unfortunately.
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I am disappointed. 
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Correct, the Aero was simply way too expensive for what it offers to me. Hence a clear no buy. But that doesn‘t save the Crystal from the same fate - otherwise I would own the Aero today, because the Xtal, Varjo VR-3/MR-3, etc. etc. all were even more expensive…. 
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True due to features; I imagine in your case lack of FoV.
Even though the Crystal in ‘Reality’ is considerably cheaper by what is it a base $800+? Then even cheaper considering it is a complete vr package with controllers and Audio solution & then other features that the Aero doesn’t offer at all.
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No doubt it is a more complete offering, but it remains being priced significantly above what I have been willing to pay for a VR headset in the past 7 years. And as I said in another post a couple of weeks ago, the expected time frame of use factors in heavily for me too: I do not expect the Crystal to be the go-to headset for anybody in this forum (who is generally willing to spend money on VR/MR headsets in the future again) in say 3 years from now.
I expect/hope that the Crystal’s visuals will be met by micro OLED displays with very high brightness, as they have been developed and production is going to start soon (see Brad Lynch’s coverage of it in the past 12-18 months) but with a substantially more compact design.
So the cost to usage ratio breaks the business case for me here, too much of a monthly rental fee for 24-36 months, so to say: even if I’d use it for 36 months, which imho is a stretch, I’d be at more than $50 per month (Sales tax included). Resale value will be in the lower hundreds by that time.
So am I willing to dish out $50+ p.m. for the improvement from the G2 or 8KX to the Crystal? For me it’s a no.
If they get wireless to perform stable & with very good visual quality it could make it a bit more enticing. But if that comes at the cost of a downgraded picture quality, it’s not.
If they get the 12K right, it could occupy a niche for some more years to come and provide more value per dollar. Let’s see.
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Okay Folks I may have jumped the gun on this. It seems the intention was meant to be taken as a joke and not serious.
Just that they had missed putting a “jk” or clarifying emoji.
My apologies; however please understand I am in a precarious position and need to ensure my actions as a moderator are following the new procedures I recently outlined.
I will have to see if the option to hide a post is still available maybe for a situation like this.
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I really wish what you said were true. I had some hope for Shiftall from MeganeX before, then the hope was crushed when they announced that the headset would cost $1700.
That headset has less resolution, less FOV, no controllers, less powerful chip (XR1) and still cost more than Crystal.
If no other headset manufacturer steps up and makes a decent headset like Crystal, then it will be the go-to headset in the next 3 years, whether you like it or not. Clearly that, Meta, Panasonic( MeganeX), Sony… they all dropped the ball for high end headsets. The only one who’s willing to do 30+PPD headsets at a fair price is only Pimax.
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Well, my problem is that even if the Crystal is only replaced in 3 years as you say, the price tag of paying $50+ per month for the upgrade from my G2/8KX is too much for me. If I didn‘t care about the money or still operated with a 1st gen VR headset, it may be a different story…
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Yeah with the MeganeX the developer stuffed up the optics then shifted his focus to make controllers for drinking games 
I’m still not convinced those controllers will ever release. No one has seen them working yet and unless Valve has recently changed something, it’s next to impossible to make a Lighthouse tracked thumbstick controller unless you’re valve. Anyone making a controller that isn’t valve need to do vive wand emulation, hence we have controllers like pimax sword being the only 3rd party options.
I don’t see why meganex would be any different or get special access, and no one has seen them working yet. They seem like a design idea that they are hoping to implement but probably don’t realise that isn’t easy. Maybe they will actually release though, I hope they do as I actually like the idea a lot and LH tracking users really could do with another option.
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My prediction it will fail. It seems they couldn’t quite get the optics right. The form factor looks cool but terribly uncomfortable for long periods of use. If the headset was great CES testers would have be raving about it
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I am surprised nothing can be said about Tobii ET…does it exist? Tobii wasnt ready in early January… are they the ones holding up the show?
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Yeah, you are right. It doesn’t make much sense to upgrade from 8kX to Crystal.
I am going to upgrade from 5k Super. The high quality picture, no SDE and pixel gaps are the main reasons.
Right now I am doing AI rendering for Avatar 1 to scale it up from 1080p to 8k. Hope I can use this to test how good the movie quality it will be.
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We don’t really know, do we. But I wouldn’t think it’s fair to say that Tobii alone are causing the Crystal to not be feature complete by now, as there are other features presumably completely independent from Tobii which are MIA, e.g. stand-alone functionality, wireless (WiGig & Wifi6e) & the optional MR face plate.
Perhaps some of the suppliers are not done with tehir efforts yet, but it appears as if Pimax themselves are not done with their development & integration efforts of the full system either.
And I surely wouldn’t put the blame for Pimax’ communication strategy on their suppliers. In any project you have to factor in setbacks and some of the announcements of Pimax, e.g. the end of September announcement of what we could only assume being regular shipments starting in China as early as two weeks after the announcement, are difficult to understand if a supplier’s component is not fully functional yet as it would seem extremely optimistic to assume you will have everything sorted out and be shipping within two weeks to come.
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From review (translated by google) 小派水晶vr头盔简单测试 - 哔哩哔哩
*5. About fov – basically reach the level of mainstream vr helmets
It is impossible to compare with 8kx, but after I use the ultra-thin sponge, I feel that it is about the same size as the index and pro2. The horizontal direction is not as large as the pro2, but the vertical is larger than the pro2. Although the vertical is not as large as the index, but the horizontal direction is larger than the index,[ it is worth noting What’s more, I didn’t experience any discomfort when using an ultra-thin sponge (about 0.6cm thick ) for the aspheric lens, but before pro2, g2, pro1, 8kx, etc., I felt more or less uncomfortable, or after using the ultra-thin sponge, the glare increase, either the edge produces distortion, or the focus causes discomfort , etc., which may be related to the fact that the latter helmets are all Fresnel lenses"
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Welcome to the OpenMR!
Thank you for sharing!
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Did they actually measure it? I guess hard numbers don’t matter as much as experience though, I felt similar when I tried it. I would say it felt like index width and slightly taller, I think the aspheric lenses help with that feeling a lot.
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Unboxing first look video posted 2 days ago subtitles available.
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I honestly dont know. I have the same info as you. It is not mentioned in his written review. He is comparing a beta version of the Crystal hands-on to other headsets in his own office/studio environment.
Crystals FoV is such a hot topic right now (also for me), I thought it would be interesting to share.
If further independent reviews would have similar conclusions, I would not be dissapointed.
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So… we have how many reports from non-NDA bound customers so far? 2-3?
How many headsets were going to be shipped in the first wave? 200? What was the time frame for it? Until end of February?
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