RTX 30 Series Discussion - Part 1

because they love to see us squirm like the little ants that we are.

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Core clock is the bottleneck, memory speeds on all these cards are well above the threshold to keep the cores 100% busy. Put another way, memory speeds advertised are completely irrelevant to VR and gaming. Even if it did matter though, we are looking at what, maybe 10% difference? We are still not seeing NVIDIA give us any option - including multi-GPU VR - to get above the threshold to do things like turn off Smart Smoothing.

Enough. All the NVIDIA hype is hype. Core transistor counts don’t lie.

As for why NVIDIA’s seemingly odd release schedule, it is quite obvious. They are hoping to sell most of us on all the RTX/DLSS features, without meaningful performance increase. There are a lot of business reasons to do this. What’s really unfortunate is that we have been waiting too long for a real performance boost since the whole cryptocurrency bust.

At the end of the day, the next generation of CPU/GPU do not give me any new capabilities, and are just enough to keep pace with inevitable bloatware. So, for me, all this serves only one purpose.

To drain my wallet, and even worse, to cost me time building another computer. For basically nothing.

I am still much more excited about having an 8kX headset. That has given me a much more meaningful improvement well worth the cost and waiting.

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Why would you build another computer? Just put the graphics card inside the slot and you’re done :stuck_out_tongue:

Haha, but seriously, the CPU will need upgrading as well, the CPU will definitely need watercooling, the GPU will run faster with watercooling, and if I did stick with air cooling, I’d probably bake the motherboard to failure.

Then there’s a very good chance my trusty 850W PSU won’t be up to the job…

And a sexy new case to put it all in.

Seriously, on that note my water-cooled 1080ti has a single fan unit. I recently noticed that the water-cooled 2080s all seem to have dual-fan units. On the assumption that the 3080/90s will be the same, I might need a new case myself.

A good watch before you buy

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That’s a whole lot of talk about basicly nothing. Could’ve been condensed into a two sentence tweet.

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Jup… Guess he had to feed the YT algorithm…? :smiley:

Here is a video (sorry it’s in French) where a guy talks about an official benchmark from NViDIA on Doom eternal, 4k nightmare mode.
This “official” NVIDIA benchmark showed a huge difference between 2080ti and 3080 , like under 90FPS vs 150 FPS.
But after a bunch of tests with the same settings on his own GPU, using 2080, 2080ti, stock, OC, it turns out he gets about the same performance on his 2080ti as on the 3080.

To be more precise, on stock, on the worst scenario he only gets 10% to 15% less, and overclocked the 2080ti even manages to get few more FPS than the 3080 sometimes.
The guy doesn’t figure out how NVIDIA managed to get their 2080ti so slow in their benchmark… he tried to underclock his, suppressing any boost and even with that he doesn’t get as slow.
he concludes with this advice : don’t sell your 2080ti like if it wasn’t worth anything.
Let’s wait for real benchmarks.

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Architecture deep dive:

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If this are correct, (195%) this Level ist nearly the same, as an regular Custom OC 2080ti model.

2080ti FE Stock - 175%
Oc Models Windforce /x-Trio etc. - 187%
Hybrid like Seahawk X, 330w 194%
MSI Seahawk custom loop 380w 198%

Manual Ti OC gives additional 6% over Stock.
My own watercooled Ti runs on 204% stable.

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I also get 204% on my OC 2080ti msi gaming trio X, air cooled.

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I like :slight_smile: 2340MHz

Let the 3090 make 25-30% more… pffff
No way to switch from a Ti. Only the more vram is nice.
Think, I will be happy with the modded 220% Trex for 300 Euro less :slight_smile:

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My Userbench gpu scores
Standard settings GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080-Ti - 181.8%
overclocked to the limit GPU: Nvidia RTX 2080-Ti - 206.8%
openvr 40.3 fps hluser on scoreboard ( pimax 5k+ normal fov at 90hz ) when overclocked

I think we need to see openvr benchmark etc for fair comparison to RTX3080’s

edit sorry I had max power on 124% for all tests

looks like better frame rates will be down to the 3080/90 overclockability

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ms flight sim @4k, an overclocked 2080ti 160/800 is less than 5% slower than 3080 FE overclocked

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Damm these are bad results…so not a real upgrade at all

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Wait for AIB cards with higher power limits

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have read, nvidis FE is hard on the limit

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