well we have the option the get the X. Great to have the choice. Dont’ be mad at them, others are just keeping to try to shove their 110° and less than QHD up your ass…and people like it.
I’m going to pledge the X, just because Kickstarter has the ability to cancel a bid anytime. If something better comes along before May 2018, I’ll go for that. But I guess we need a miracle for that, since the competition isn’t exactly stepping up.
competition can’t risk having people running these with some Geforce 4 in their 1995 pc…and ruin their reputation
This does not make ANY sense to me, can someone clarify please ? How did they even test 8k X when the bridge chips don’t exist yet ? I have a feeling they’re trying to downplay the interest for the X. Also with this comment:
That doesn’t make sense neither. With 1080ti you’ll have a nice starter set for sure. And SLI doesn’t even work for VR, only 3 titles out there support it at the moment. Either way, in may 2018 we’ll already have next generation video cards like GTX 2060/2070/2080 which will handle the X very well. With some luck we’ll have them in february already.
It seems they’re trying to steer people away from the X to their 1440p version.
for sure but it’s understandable, they need to sell the standard for now. Me and You and “some” know how much true 4k differs, but general public don’t. Let them be for now…
Yes, I know that throught software you never get the same (quality, vivid colors, contrast,etc), but another solution I do not see it. They (Pimax Team) were supposed to make a converter to get native resolution but it never came reality. Let´s face it throught software for the moment.
Hope it’s translation issue or they must be trying content where they can not discern the difference.
Need to know what they’re basing their observations off.
Also what will stop us simply reduce the resolution ingame until the next gpu version? Setting ingame res to 1440p and you got the normal 8k or did I miss something?
Exactly this. You can just run it at lower resolution and you’re fine. So it’s all BS that that you NEED an gtx 1080ti to run it. They just post that so they hope people will buy the 1440p version instead.
Its not the specs of 1440p per eye that I even take issue with. Its actually really great for prosumers that a company is offering Star VR level specs for non enterprise consumers. Its even more amazing that the KS unit will have less SDE than Star VR.
What will hurt a bit im afraid is that Pimax banks on resolution terms in their marketing.
Unsavy folk will buy this thing expecting a leap in visual fidelity as well as FOV. At 200 degrees FOV and native 1440p per eye, using this HMD will be roughly the same ppd as the 4k, but double the FOV.
Now, thats amazing, but it wont be what kickstarter readers will be expecting based on the marketing on the KS page.
We keep asking pimax this question about reducing resolution (subsampling) and they keep deflecting, trying to steer people away from the X.
There’s a lot of middle ground between the 1440 and 2160 resolutions.
7:25 am in California, wake up and update the page…!!! I have to do more things
You will NEED a ti for the 8k x model. (The model that supports native 4k per eye) because only the Ti can push most experiences at 4k 45hz upsampled to 90hz.
Ive tested native 4k VR rendering on a 3gb 1060, and only the most bare bones experiences work.
Its honest for Pimax to say you need the 1080 ti on the 8k X.
Off course by Q2 2018 the 1080 ti will probably be the equivalent of gtx 2070 volta ($450 mid range card by then.)
That’s incorrect. Kickstarter lets you change the pledge until the campaign ends, at which point they will charge whatever you pledged. Past that, the creator (Pimax) has a debt to you they can satisfy either by delivering the rewards or refunding you; as long as they’re working towards delivery, they’re not obliged to refund you. It’s also fairly common for projects to entirely fail, leaving backers with no more than a story. In this case, as an established company with a seriously prototyped product, Pimax are unlikely to fail. So between end of campaign (October, maybe November) and delivery (maybe May), it is entirely up to Pimax if they want to accept cancellations.
Kickstarter is not a process of ordering something finished. Backers pay early for a promise, and the creator gains access to those funds early and contact with a group of enthusiasts. Frequently kickstarter editions of products resemble beta versions.
They could probably push 90% of 2160p on the current bridge chip at 60hz without troble, but they probably wont.
Sure for the full 2*4k you will need the 1080ti or better. But what if I reduce the game resolution? Wouldn’t that work with a lower tear gpu than?
Yes, but at that point you woukd be better off just using the default options Pinax will offer. Running lower resolutions introduces artifacts.
But performance is also going to be application dependant. with my gtx 1080 I don’t expect to play raw data at native res, but I do expect I could watch a movie at native res. The issue here is having the option for things that will benefit from higher resolutions but allow us to subsample when required. Even if it’s to 1440 matching the current upscaled version.

You will NEED a ti for the 8k x model. (The model that supports native 4k per eye) because only the Ti can push most experiences at 4k 45hz upsampled to 90hz.
Ive tested native 4k VR rendering on a 3gb 1060, and only the most bare bones experiences work.
Its honest for Pimax to say you need the 1080 ti on the 8k X.
Off course by Q2 2018 the 1080 ti will probably be the equivalent of gtx 2070 volta ($450 mid range card by then.)
Well, not all people are that interested in gaming. Some people like me are more interested in a virtual desktop. To be able to see smaller fonts clearly, native 2x4K might be really important. I don’t think a virtual desktop is that demanding, since the upper 1xxx Geforce GPUs support real 8K which is double the resolution.

Yes, but at that point you woukd be better off just using the default options Pinax will offer. Running lower resolutions introduces artifacts.
What’s the difference between the X upsampling 1440p to 4k or the regular version ? I don’t see why this would be different ? In other words you don’t need 1080ti.