Pimax 8K VR Frequent Asked Questions

Pimax 8K Series
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Lol

Truth i think its more they were expecting the component they needed a partner to have ready to have the native 4k/eye at launch of the kickstarter. & had to bring it forward that it wasn’t going to be ready.

Yes i think they should have been more open with the res issue & the reason why manual focus not possible with the nature of the design.

I honestly think we the community scared them in the past with our reaction when we discovered the render swap from Steam to Pimax custom iwn render. Many of us including myself were not kind at all.

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We can send our 8k back later when the 8k x is out and pay the difference?

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That’s what I’m fuzzy about, if true that’s a great deal though.

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I think what she’s saying is you pay for the 8k x now and they will send you an 8k when is becomes available not sure if they want the old ones back.

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I spent $3000 on a new high spec PC about 8 months ago and I will not be updating it just to use a VR unit that cannot be adjusted to give correct focus for my vision.
I’m happy to wait until a properly designed VR/AR unit becomes available and from what I’ve read so far, sadly it will probably not be a Pimax 8K.

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From Kickstarter:
“Based on our tests, no obvious difference in VR gaming experiences between 8K and 8K X.”

Is this a claim to upscaling potential on the 8K ?

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Yeah sounds like they are implying that the upscaling quality in 8K is comparable with the non-upscaled image from 8K X. Although I don’t know if they even have a working prototype for 8K X so I’m not sure how that has been tested.

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I agree with the costs of vr being high; you need know if the unit will meet your needs. This is where it needs to have places where you can experience trying it out without purchase.

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Yeah, that was my next question… what are they testing the 8k against?
But, I digress, we all need to make a decision and aren’t obligated to do anything.

Personally, I’ll back this 8kx deal, but what I’d like to know before it goes live is:
Can we trade in the 8k for the 8kx with any 8kx package that we go with?

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I think your focusing too much on hardware resolution when actually you can get it through software (DSR and Custom Resolutions) even 4K and 5K. With Pimax 4K you can get excellent results with actual GPUs (GTX 980ti) in my case. Now, the main point with this Pimax 8K is FOV and Headtracking (like Vive and Oculus). I was angry too when they (Pimax Team) step back with native resolution with Pimax 4K but searching I found another ways to get it (software). Anyway if they upgrade Pimax 8K to 2 DP 1.4 then I can not use it right because my GTX 980ti only support DP 1.2 and not going to buy another GPU (U$500 min). So for me if the price is good I will support Pimax 8K kickstarted.

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It means only “it takes more then it gives”, means you have to upgrade your g.card to the latest possible that cost around 1000$ and for that you’ll get a decent (recommended, but not high) fps with a high resolution that is not really noticeable and of course more cables (more weight, less comfort). In other words - it doesnt cost its money for now, like a 4k monitor - you still have a big choice to get something different with a standard resolution and couple other keyfeatures as high frequency, gsync, ultra wide fov, triple screens and so on.

Higher resolution doesnt always means a winner. For sure higher resolution (pixel density) of a display panel is important in VR, therefore its called 8k and it has around 17millions of physical pixels, but if we talk about software resolution - you should consider a compromise and its not a bad idea.

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it’s not the same thing…software you can only smooth what you’re giving to the screen. That’s totally different, the pixels you don’t have in your input are not going to appear anyway…

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I don’t see a field to input my address in Kickstarter. Only billing, which also doesn’t ask for address. How does pimax know where to ship to?

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So, just bend over is your message? Because its manufacturing and its hard? Lol come on man.

I am glad the 8k X unit will fix the problems with native resolution in Q2 2018. But @deletedpimaxrep1 Why didnt Pimax just tell us this information durring IFA?

Jimh54 You said you have worked in engineering and manufacturing?

Riddle me this: What is the 1st rule of proper engineering and scailing up to mass manufacturing?

Build the best product you can for the lowest cost per unit while maintaining the highest quality producf you can.

The current non native 8k prototype unit has all the internal components required to drive one single 4k panel at about 75hz, possibly 90hz.

The company is already churning out 4k hmds (ie tooling for their displays, lenses, housing, etc.is already going full tilt for the 4k, and they are slowly getting QC under control.)

Why should reasonable people be excited to buy the beta unfinished 8k kit when Pimax could literally just upgrade the 4k unit to make a gen2 giving us a completely badass HMD that would cost them less money to make, and the consumer less money to buy?

If they want to offer me an 8K X unit that has 200 degree FOV, native 4k DP 1.4, and lighthouse tracking in Q2 2018, thats amazing. But how does this help their backers today? What if the company ends up like Sixsense, and cant deliver.

I’m worried that Pimax is using customers as alpha testers again, just like they did with the 4k unit. I was here last year, and the 4k was not a good hmd yet.

Lots of tweaking and a year of community feedback, and now the current 4k is a bit better.

BUT THE ABILITY IS THERE TO.MAKE THE 4K INSANELY BETTER.

The rub is that Pimax today has the means to sell us a finished, polished, fully featured 4k HMD with native 4k resolution 75hz, 110 degrees, roomscale, and controllers.

That HMD would have every feature we as a community have all wanted for a year, but they are opting for the same flawed approach that they took last year. Where is the engineering sense there?

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Not the same, native res. with “no” super-sample would be more beneficial and less taxing than lower res. with super-sample to match or get near it’s quality.

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They aren’t asking for a shipping address? Red Flag.

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Shipping information updates later when they request it, its common thing for kickstarter.
You’ll get notification mail.

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They won’t ask for shipping address until they are ready to ship.

Yes, that’s how it works after you have parted with your money for likely months.

You’ll have to frequent the Kickstarter to get an idea of progress.

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Or here. This forum is literally filled with experts. Good place to get all the latest information. I’ve learned so much about resolution, DP, and all kind of stuff. Sadly, most of it won’t mean anything when I’m in the middle of Fallout 4 VR and fighting for my Virtual life. I likely won’t even think about it. All in beautiful 4k upscaled to 8k, 200 FOV bliss. :wink:

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That’s just marketing talk. It’s 1440p upscaled to 4k. Huge difference.

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