every LCD on this planet have mura. Some more, some less.
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Hey mate, you bought the 8k-X again? Haha, nice!
My take on getting the best image quality
- Forget about trying to get the 8k-X close to your IPD. Thatās only something relevant with normal headsets, not with Pimax headsets
What you see is NOT what you get with Pimax, so just forget that. Panels are most likely misplaced and the whole Pimax IPD system just makes no sense. So itās really irrelevant what your IPD is, you should not even try to match that with Pimax, itās useless. - Your first objective should be to maximize clear vision over your FoV. Thatās what you do with the hardware slider. Just increase/decrease it and notice what it does to the clear part of your FoV. Alternate between looking through your left, right eye, and both eyes, until you get a good sense what the best position is for maximum clearness. The goal is to position the lenses so that theyāre in the middle of your irises, so the fuzzy part at the edges should be equally far left/right from each iris. If you play long enough with this you should get a good idea where that is.
- Once youāve found that, then the 2nd objective is to minimize eye strain and maximize 3d effect, which seem two sides of the same coin (youāll achieve both at the same time). This is done with the software settings. I see 2 ways to do that which both can work complementary:
3A) In the real world, alternate looking through your right and left eye. Look at an object several meters away and notice how this object ājumpsā left/right but potentially also up/down when looking through your diffferent eyes. Itās my theory that you need to simulate this in VR too. Now do the same in VR, look at an object thatās the same distance as the object that you were looking at in the real world and adjust the software sliders. Youāll see that the sliders increase/decrease the different position when looking through your left or right eye so make it so the distance is simulated in VR
3B) a different way is to, in VR, focus on an object in the far distance and then look at a straight line and see what happens when you change the settings. In your ādouble visionā you will see a 2nd line that gets closer/further to the first line. You need to line them up
Now when youāve found a good setting, you might need to finetune it: Go play a while and see if you get eyestrain. It should at least be better than before, so more time playing without eye strain. What I did next is I changed one of the settings slightly and then the next day played again and see if this improved my playing time without eye strain. I repeated this process over a few days and then ended up with a setting that seems to give me no eye strain at all anymore
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Thx @Djonko ,
Yea bought it again to try the 90hzā¦ lol
This unit is better then my old 8kx,it needs a totaly different ipd and the mura is less tooā¦
Still not the sharpness and clear picture as the hp reverb g2ā¦But i can live with it now i thinkā¦
Thx for the tips! Cant wait till you got your varjo 3 and share your impressionsā¦
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Itās quite nice eh! Iām sensitive to hz, to me the difference between 72 and 90 really is huge. Itās still not perfect though, but oh well, which headset is ā¦
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Its indeed better then before,and i got a better pimax 8kx sample nowā¦
Still no hp reverb g2 clarityā¦But better then my old pimax 8kx and the 90hz does feel ALOT better nowā¦
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Like literally what the method I posted does- just way more complicatedā¦ and IPD is very relevant.
Doing the real world/object comparison only works if ALL of the games have exactly the same world scale size. I know, because the minute I went from Alyx to NMS and then to Sunshine, every one of them was off and I had to readjust.
Thatās why I added the bars in the middle in graduated sizes.
But if you really want to fiddle with it hard and soft IPD adjustments every time you load up a different gameā¦ /shrug
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I really would like to try your method with the picture you posted. Where do I put the picture ? also when viewing the picture do I adjust the software ipd in PE or pitools. Iām new to Vr. I had the quest 2 and my 5 year old son claimed it as his. I was in microcenter and spur of the moment I bought the 8kx. I havenāt played yet because one of the base stations were broken and I should be receiving a replacement by tuesday, but in the mean time I could really zero in my IPD. I noticed what most people noticed. My left eye sharp and right eye blurry. IDP wheel turned all the way down. If I move my headset to the left a tiny bit the right gets sharp and the left eye is blurry. Also on PE when I open a desktop window I can not read anything from my desktop, its all burry. So when Iām looking at the image and Iām making adjustment is it on PE or pitools. If itās pitools I have to keep taking the headset off ?
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How is that relevant? I have IPD 69.5 but use about 64 on Pimax. So what I mean, forget about the Pimax IPD number. Iāve long had this idea that I somehow had to be close to my real IPD, like in every other headset. But with Pimax thatās not the case, thatās what I meant.
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Take the image you downloaded and place it in your Pimax directory. This will likely be:
C>Program FIles>Pimax>Runtime>Resource. Either rename the existing file (if you want to keep it) or just overwrite it.
Youāll have to adjust the values in PiTool to use my image, as you canāt load it in PE.
Thereās also the fact that PE shows the exact reverse of PiToolās settings (+ becomes -, ect.) which is confusing as hell.
To do this, go into PiTool, boot your HMD up and under the āSettingsā tab, look for where it says āHomeā on the bottom. Tick the ācloseā option. This will prevent PiHome and PE from loading and will allow you to see the static image.
Before we proceed here weāre going to assume the following:
That you have either the DAS or the Pimax version of the audio strap installed.
(Would also strongly recommend a 7oz. counterweight on the back of the DAS to balance the weight of the HMD. Yeah, I know it seems weird to ADD weight to make something more comfortable. But, here we are.)
That you have the VR comfort kit and/or aftermarket face gaskets (ie: VR Cover) installed.
That you have already adjusted these to find the proper fit, angle and placement on your face for comfort and the clearest image. One of the most common signs that you have NOT gotten the HMD to fit properly is that āone eye blurā that youāre talking about. This is caused by your nose not being centered between the lenses and the HMD likely being positioned too high on your face. The VR comfort kit makes this easy to adjust thanks to the rubber ānose guardā thing. Move the HMD itself (NOT THE IPD WHEEL) and find the āsweet spotā to where both sides are the same āclearnessā even if itās not sharp yet.
Why is this all necessary? Because thereās so many damn factors that play into this. The size of your head, the shape of your face, the thickness of the foamā¦ on and on. This is also why itās almost impossible to get a āuniversal settingā for all users. Everyoneās face/head/eyes/eye spacing/near and far IPD is different.
So assuming that you have already taken care of the above:
Now comes the irritating part.
Put on your HMD and follow my instructions in the post above to adjust your Hard and Soft IPDs.
TRY NOT TO REMOVE OR ALTER THE FIT OF YOUR HEADSET WHILE DOING THIS.
Let me say that again:
TRY NOT TO REMOVE OR ALTER THE FIT OF YOUR HEADSET WHILE DOING THIS.
Youāll need to click on the sliders in PiTool in order to adjust the values. Or, you can Tab between them via keyboard, but you still need to click on one to adjust. Do this, and DONāT USE THE MOUSE to adjust the sliders. Use your arrow keys on the keyboard. Youāll have to do this by feel (of the arrow keys).
Follow the steps and when youāre done, you should be dialed in with a nice clear view, a nice sharp picture (how sharp depend on the resolution you set in either PiTool or PE. Profiles are fun!) and most importantly, properly adjusted 3d stereo. Youāll know it when you see it in game.
A very long explanation of what is actually a simple process, once you know all the steps. Yes, itās a PITA, but itās worth it.
To clear up the text in PE, youāll have to go to the āCommonā setting and set it to 1.0 (high) or 1.25 (very high). Save the profile, apply the changes and I recommend restarting PE. When it comes back up, the text should be a hell of a lot clearer.
Hope that helps and good luck! Let us know how it turns out.
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This likely depends on physiological factors and maybe in cases like yours how near the max physical or minimum IPD on the mechanical adjustment range.
Depending on the individual the method of setting ipd seems to work differently.
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Wow, thanks for the full explanation , So just to be sure, I have to leave the headset on the whole time while Iām making adjustments on pitool thatās on my pc monitor ? If thatās the case it sounds hard, lol. Either way when I finally sit down and do I will definitely post my results. Thanks a million
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Yup, youāll have to do it by touch with the helmet on.
Itās not that bad, just use TAB to move between the sliders.
TAB to move forward, I think CTRL+TAB to move back?
Standard keyboard shortcuts.
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Thanks again. I may cheat and have my girlfriend do the clicking, HAHAHAHA. She gonna be mad if Iām there a long time. Iāll just tell her that now she knows how I felt when we used to go out shopping.
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Was messing around with it for an hour yesterday, I place the unit dead center with my nose. I called my eye doctor to get my IPD he said it is 30-30 so itās 60. Iām nearsighted fyi. Hardware ipd at the lowest gave my the best visual. Both eyes have the same slight fuzzy or slight blurry when iām looking dead center. If I look slightly to the right with only my eyes not my head everything is super clear and if I look slightly to the left with only my eyes not my head everything is super clear. Only when I look dead center itās not so clear.
So I started messing around with the software offset looking at your picture. I started with my left eye. No matter what I did image still looked the same. No better change in clarity on the left eye so I didnāt bother with the right eye. One thing I have to say that without me touching anything on the software offset that picture looks 3d. the lines pop out and long blue boxes look 3d. The only issue is that itās not crisp dead center everything else is.
After that i said screw it let me start pavlov. I went to the shooting range and dead center not crisp but everything else sharp. After a while I was looking at the 4 screws on the table legs and noticed wow that looks pretty clear because it was dead center. So I closed my right eye then my left looking at the object and it got a little blurry again. Iām guessing my eyes adjusted to it and made it sharper but when I closed each eye separate it went back to the way before. Also I was in the shooting range for about 45 minutes. When I took off my headset I had no eye strain and my eyes adjusted to the real world instant. Iām guessing the sweet spot on the lenses are just a tad apart for my eyes and iām at the end of the wheel. Software is only moving the image around but not the lenses. I think I read something about thatās how pimax made it. not sure. It was a post from someone that starts with an R. Maybe Iām doing something wrong but moving the offset on my left eye didnāt make the picture sharper thatās why I didnāt bother with the right. I just found it weird that after awhile in pavlov dead center looked pretty sharp then when I closed each eye separately it readjusted to the slight blur. Sorry this was long
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Yeah, sounds like you need to tinker with the angle of the HMD/thickness of the face foams. You can use double sided velcro or other ways to shim it up. Take your hand and tilt it up down and see if it changes anything. If the settings work as is for you, go for it! Thereās so many variables.
I know I had to run my settings literally 13 times before I convinced myself they were right, because mine are +.4 and -1.1 L/R eye; a huge difference. I raised the vertical equally to +4.5 to raise the picture to be more in line with my center line of vision.
Iād run both eyes to be thorough, but like I said, it if works without eyestrain, do it.
Pimax is a picky beast, thatās for certain.
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Iām definitely going to try again and see the other eye. I did the Velcro thing on the cheek part it was better that way before I even posted my first post. Now im thinking to try it off just to make sure itās better with the strips. Your right about it being picky. Hopefully I can get it better. Thanks for all your help.
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Anytime.
Youāll get it there, and when you do itās worth it.
FWIW, if you havenāt added the counterweight yet, you should give it a try. Itās quite a difference when itās balanced properly. 
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the steamvr.vrsettings did more harm than good. I reverted to my orig. settings
I dont get it.
where do I save it to?
C>Program FIles>Pimax>Runtime>Resource
Posts above outline the process.