CES 2018 V5 Road To Vr Review!

Ready, and what is the point of going to the CES if it is not to have media cover?

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Stop experimenting during the show.
Take the 80Hz we know is stable.
Add the fov (and other settings) that Swiviver and Sebastion Ang saw in Amsterdam
Put a DCS pilot in the dam thing and report.
Put a 10 year old in Serious Sam and report.
Ask either of them would you buy this? If not-why?

Was not this the stated reason for doing CES before issuing a new shipping survey? Feedback.

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I suppose you meant to address this somebody else’s comment - in my last post I did not speak about the good or bad of them being at the CES… :wink:

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To those who backed Pimax in the kickstarter campaign. Backing is not the same as Purchasing, right? There Is a risk involved. That’s the nature of investments. Only in this case there is a pretty good chance you don’t lose everything. You might lose your mind waiting, but this is the price a n00b pays on an investment. Good investments take time to mature. Pimax kickstarted did better than they anticipated. Better than Oculus. Try to remember the reasons for that … they have already shown they can get closer to a certain kind of ideal VR experience than the others, and for a somewhat reasonable price.
You have not lost your money. You have not lost your Investment. Maybe Pimax needs to hire a few more people to work on their problems, yes. They said themselves they were going to CES to connect with tech-savvy people To Get Constructive Criticism. Do you want them to hide in the shadows? Do you want them to never participate unless they’re perfect? That’s not the goal today. Today is to connect, be present. BE REAL with the tech-savvy public.

They want to Grow, and Learn. But some people have to make everything painful if they don’t get what they want NOW!

They are interested in being aware of where they are short. That is Not par for the course for many startups. It’s actually unusual. They’re seeking to reach perfection by taking the step of opening themselves up to criticism and being vulnerable, collecting Extremely Valuable data, and then some of those who are ā€œbackingā€ them come out with the knives dulled up ready to carve them apart. For what? Wanting to know realistically where they are at? So they don’t disappoint you, the ā€œbackerā€.

Slow down. Take a few nice even nourishing breaths. Everything is as was said it would be. One review does not make a shit show, and they did not promise the second coming of Hamilton in VR. Be the ā€œbackerā€ you would want to have.

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Gee man, I vote for you to get hired as public relations and image manager for Pimax. You almost convinced me if I weren’t me.

BTW, Shenzen China tech markets might have a way of making CES look pretty ho hum. Pimax might not be too worried about CES because in their culture ā€œbeen there, live thereā€.

LOL, none of this makes ANY sense at all. You don’t need to go to CES to ā€˜connect to people’ as a PARTICIPANT and cough up $200.000 to demonstrate a product that’s in an early alpha state at best with pretty much nothing working like it should (not even lighthouse tracking for crying out loud, that’s damn easy to get going!). And now, we’ve paid $800, were told delivery jan 2018, now it looks more like 2019. Sure you can shrug your shoulders but others DO mind. I don’t even mind losing $800, what I do mind is that 2018 is another bummer for the VR scene.

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After all these epic fails … new York , ces
(I do not know who is the reviewer of v3, no one have seen v4 and then v5, they said something about shipping news before ces )
I would Like To Tell you that i could manufacture a mouse for Example and After many prototypes ( this is standard), in the production only one every Ten is ok , only one go well and is cordless. The others goes well only with a cord. And they sell it
This is business
So Dear backers After all these marketing and organitation errors i Think there is no Hope that pimax could make pimax 8k 200 fov or Little Less well .
Prototypes are a thing. Production is another beast

I’ve been paid to do this kind of work in the past, yes. Presentations to investors. And it is my experience that causes me to see something there.

I swear that you in your last post did a better job than all Pimax marketing stuff last year.

I’m not saying you shouldn’t be a little upset. I’m saying what choice do you have in how you deal with it. What do you turn that in to? Do you trash the idea of this working out at all, or do you wait … like a normal investor must do. I don’t feel dwelling on what I can’t control or making it more difficult for those who do control things by increasing pressure in areas they are already aware of does anything to help.
1 Review. Just 1.

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Ok, beyond conspiracy theory that Pimax did it purposedly, there might another explanation like this:

  • Pimax 8K is not a product on the edge of launching, as Vive Pro is.
  • It doesnt need public exposure NOW, to attract investors and buyers, not the case.
  • The main objective of Pimax is to make a functional headset and fulfill backers orders, not to show something to others.
  • Their image will be built AFTER launch
  • Probably the next CES will be the proper time when they will be ready to launch pre-orders to consumers

so this failure is normal. It couldn’t be otherwise, what happened was natural.
Letting HTC do their job could not be avoided in any case, otherwise the whole world would be unbalanced by the unexpected high tech that a small company would have presented.

Nay, it doesnt’ work like that. Pimax will deliver when the rest of the world will be also prepared, and no loss will be possible for the relevant players in the market.

This is ridiculous. So you’re proposing that someone approached Pimax, offered them money to do poorly at CES to make themselves look better, Pimax accepted, the devised a prototype that had flaws, fabricated it, flew it to Las Vegas, put their company banner up, and then intentionally made themselves look bad? Are you a flat-Earther too? Was the moon landing fixed?

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Everything is possible, but in the end I tend to believe that the nature took its right.
No , it was not about coruption, it was a natural process.

My wife asked me why Palmer doesn’t back Pimax with some significant funding. I told her he might have a non-compete with Oculus. Maybe he’s just selfish, won’t help on anything he can’t get all the attention for. But if I was involved I would try my damnedest to get them what they needed and assistance in going in exactly the direction they are going … not redirection. But it’s been almost decades since I last had those resources. I’ve been chasing the immersive experience rainbow for 30 years now. I see a glimmer of gold here. I didn’t buy an Oculus or Vive. I bought a Pimax because of this. I don’t believe the big companies. I have faith in HTC and Vive, but they have so many distracting obligations, some financial, that I don’t know if they’ll get to the end. Oculus, not so much, I don’t know enough about their founders to really know, but enough to doubt their maturity. It’s easy to make many many mistakes if you have billions to cover them up. Pimax just has their backers. And its a smart move not to get vulture capitalists on their backs. They went to US. Because they want the same thing we do. Not the a pot of gold, but the pot of gold at the VR rainbow. (Forgive me, I also like to do this a lot :slight_smile: )

I’ll stop it now, heh :wink:

I’m laughing so hard with the flat earther comment lololololol

They stated Out Loud that their reason for going to CES was to get Feedback. Why don’t you believe them? Who better to get feedback than a bunch of uber nerds attending CES???

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That statement, as other user here well noticed, was wrong.

At CES you don’t get feedbacks
At CES you are presenting something that works for sure, or you dont go.

What I am telling here is something good for believers in Pimax, if you dont get it.

What I am teliing here is Pimas needed not to go to CES. They are not yet in that position. They struggle to have one product workable. Feedbacks should have been very uncospiciously taken from us, not from world media.

Who said that? Where are these rules stated? There are no other presenters here with beta products? Products that aren’t as they will be on the market yet? I bet if you did just 10 minutes research on this you would find this is not true at all. You’re going to find that quite a few of the products presented are not ready for public consumption.

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