8KX vs HP Reverb, a new sample clip

The thing is each panel has some considerable plus and minus to it. Some of the sample OLEDs are pentile and pentile variants etc. or have smear issues to overcome.

We are always testing new tech as you might imagine but I can say I haven’t seen an OLED sample just yet that has potential to rapidly make it into a production device.

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Guess you missed the 4k 5.5" Oled with a ppi 732 that was demoed in 2015 from a chinese Mfgr. Granted that company doesn’t seemed to have moved forward with it as no sku in their products. But were originally targeting VR.

Pentile displays would be Samsung; as others can only be labled like.

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I’m 100% certain we haven’t seen all the panels out there. Some of the consideration revolves around it’s prospects for mass production. Some of the panels out there are just demonstrators and not very close to mass production.

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Thanks for the reply. Interesting… It seems the 1440p Samsung panel used in the XR has been available for years now. I’m surprised they haven’t just updated the resolution. Samsung demoed a large 4K anti blue light VR panel nearly 4 years ago. You’re in a perfect position there to push these guys for supply :sunglasses:

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Yes if you experienced issues with the lenses that is still there. I really don’t have a problem with the issues you mention, certainly not any more than any of my pimaxes. The main downside I see is the fov but the resolution is so high that it’s better than index or any current pimax for me. Hopefully the 8k x will replace it though.

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Yeah…“75fps” :laughing:

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Thank you Martin for the comparison. They both look very good but the 8k x definitely has the edge. Any word on pimax day 2 and preorder information? Thank you.

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I don’t mean to be rude… but… you are quite a bad driver… you are meant to throttle when the lights turn green…

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What about eye tracking DFR? Have you already tried it? We have no information at all. Every time I ask there is not answer. It would be nice if you could say something about it. Thanks.

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OMG - very frustrated, aren’t you?

I have tried eye tracking but not with DFR yet, hopefully I will during my stay in Shanghai, travelling tomorrow.

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FOR PIMAX what Is the target of DFR: to reduce computational cost or to eliminate distorsions ?

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DFR is for reducing computing power, and distortion correction is a different thing.
Also Pimax is working on both of them.

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SweViver, Good day and your doing awesome as always but can we please get comparison video’s between the 8kx and the original 8k. The 8k is the standard I have and would like to see a side by side comparison before the pre-orders go live for 8kx.

Thanks Jason and keep going strong.

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Also 8kx native/ upscaled / and 8k+ if there’s any difference please

Thanks! I might be able to edit and upload the same 8K+ sample clip vs 8KX tonight (its recorded already) but Im currently packing and preparing for Shanghai trip tomorrow…

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Pls, a picture comparison vs 5k+, 8k, 8k+, 8kx and Index would be handy

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Inside-out tracking is nice, but for a high-end tracking experience outside-in LH tracking still has the edge. Not sure why we would want Pimax to invent a more convenient new tracking with a bit less performance? Their headsets are not competing for the most convenient headset award anyhow, remember?

Hand tracking on Quest - err, seems you haven‘t read the hands-on reviews of it, have you. Likely not comparable to the quality of the LeapHaptics hand-tracking, at least not very soon. Nice addition at no cost, but again, Pimax isn‘t about low cost no hassle.

Controllers - I very much preferred the Touch of the CV1, I find the new Touch controllers of the Rift S and Quest a step backwards in terms of ergonomy & quality. Still much better than Vive wands, though. And I agree, I don‘t expect Pimax‘ controllers to be a revelation, but as you can get the Index, no real complaint from my side.

Amazing optics ?! Now you must be talking about the R&D work of Oculus, certainly not about the products available from Oculus in 2019.

And before you ask, yes, I own both of them, I am not an Oculus/fb hater. The Quest is a great device, it has pushed a completely different, yet valuable approach to advance VR as a whole. The Rift S, well, is not pushing the tech significantly, rather aimed at providing a reasonable & convenient experience at a lowish price point.

As far as the Oculus research is concerned, what good is their great R&D work to us at this moment, if they don‘t release it in a product we can purchase ? I am hopeful that it will result in a cool device one day, but expect it to be more aimed at social VR or AR - and possibly only when it can be priced below a certain threshold, so we may have to wait longer.

So who knows if high-end VR enthusiasts in the future will ever be getting Oculus devices as their primary devices for cutting edge VR gaming experiences again.

That is the whole point of those saying that Pimax deserves some credit for pushing the envelope even if the polish may be often lacking. Oculus isn‘t pushing the PC VR envelop in 2019, nor likely in 2020.

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Good points Axacuatl.

With one exception - myself - I am a fb hater. Insidious platform with very poor ethics with regards to users content ownership and privacy.

I agree that for high end VR enthusiasts - Pimax seems to be the cutting edge of what is possible. Don’t see any of the other players delivering the same experience in the next couple of years.

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Couldnt get the video done on time, but here are some fast photos (NOT MACRO) of the same sequence in Project Cars 2… 8KX vs 8K+. (I will try to add original 8K later)

Yes the image quality is not optimal, but its only a small portion of the VR view.
Also, the “moire”-effect is caused by the camera/lenses.

Note: These photos do NOT show the SDE, These photos should only be seen as a simple clarity comparison or “image detail at far distance comparison” between 8KX and 8K+, using same SteamVR SS 100%, and PiTool 1.0. The brightess, contast, colors etc could differ, but thats because of the camera and different shutter speed (different Hz).

Open full images for slighty better comparison.

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