I believe the 8k uses 2 1440p images, so no cutting?
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4K has one panel 60Hz - one upscaler chip.
8K has two panels 80Hz - one upscaler chip for the two panels (I think).
Maybe this itās the problem. I donāt think itās the same chip.
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Weāve been told the 8K uses the ANX7530, which is a DP receiver with MIPI outputs, and does the splitting for left and right panel. Expect each panel to have its own scaler chip on its MIPI DSI or D-PHY connection. And no, thereās not much reason to assume that scaler is of the same family as in the 4K.
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The Pimax 8k scaler wasnāt available back then, so itās definitely not the same scaler. Then again, hmmm I thought too that the ANX7530 did scaling but looking at the specs it doesnt seem to do that at all ā¦
So it seems we donāt even know which scaler the Pimax 8k (or the pimax 4k for that matter) uses ā¦
Ah the confusion comes from the fact that next gen (coming next year) does include a scaler: Two Dual MIPI-DSI | www.analogix.com
ANX7530 doesnt.
How could ANX7530 drive two screens from a single DP input if it does not have a scaler?
What exactly is the alternative that is available on the market at a similar price that removes these 2 evils and also has a wide fov. Please tell me so I can go buy it. I keep hearing complaints but no offering a direct alternative I can go and buy that resolves all of the issues that you mention. What is the price of a unicorn anyway.
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With being a tester in the test group I can understand wanting to see first hand before choosing. Now sure backers would prefer the same. But the testers invested time to help improve the product.
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The alternatives are to sell the product and either wait for the answers of the competition, either as improved products (Oculus, Samsung), new ones (Google, LG, Apple?) or with lower prices (HTC, StarVR) or, to avoid trouble as the partner, buy a huge 4K television and a console to play with friends forgetting messes with VR and unnecessary expenses for him.
Weāve come to see it as totally normal to go from a 1080 Ti to a 2080 Ti just to fix some blurring, instead of fixing the cause of that blurring.
I myself do not know what I will do.
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2019 is going to be a great year for VR. A lot of new display panel tech is coming up thatās going to change the industry (JDI, BOE etc). BOE already has started ordering equipment for their new plant and JDI still says Q1 2019, so thatās looking great. Iām sure a lot of manufacturers are already making new VR equipment based on their demo samples.
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The simple truth is we still donāt have the gpu power as we can see with other HiFoV headsets have not stepped past 5k.
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Welp, I reached out to the 4K community, because I wanted to start getting a feel for how much Pimax advanced the unit from launch. The answer is pretty mixed- and I emphasize that because I see GOOD as well as not so good. I think the parallels to our 8K/5K+ will be a bit skewed in that it seems Pimax have appeared to devote more manpower to our project. However, we will also be on the same side of that coin once all the backers get their units, some day one tweaks occur, and then in 2019, I am sure Pimax will devote the bulk of their efforts to developing the 8K.
My point here is the likelihood of a āhail maryā move where Pimax sorts out the 8K in the near term seems pretty slim. Slim by what we can see in the 4K development history. Slim by the observations of the testers. Slim by the fact that Pimax will likely dive in with both feet into 8K X development in 2019.
I am probably 75/25 towards the 5K+ myself. Unless some huge news comes out of the blue in the next couple of days, I may actually delay my choice till October. I need base stations anyways, so I think better to see if any developments play out this month, then I can get my HMD and base stations in one go.
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I knew the 8K units were a gimmick from the beginning! NOTHING will beat NATIVE resolution even at lower pixel count. Any resolution outside the native resolution of ANY display will look bad regardless of how high the display resolution is.
You can test this out yourself! Just try any 4k computer monitor and set it to 1440p, then look at a native 1440p monitor. The lower resolution native 1440p monitor will look FAR superior.
Nothing can beat native resolutionā¦nothing. The 5K+ is the unit to buy by far.
And thatās just not true. See: http://community.openmr.ai/t/for-reference-pimax-4k-vs-vive-pro/8348
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You CANT compare OLED vs LCD. The HTC Vive, Vive Pro, and Ocuous Rift use PENTIL display which in reality are 1/3 LESS resolution than advertised. This is something most people dont understand about the OLED displays in HTC and Rift units.Research Pentil OLED displays. Pentil displays are the reason the HTC Vive and Rift look so terrible.
Comparing TRUE RGB to RGB like LCD use shows that native resolution is FAR superior. The tests and images of the 8k and 5k DONT lie. This has been know in the LCD world for DECADES now.
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Forget about the comparison. Just look at the pimax 4k pics
You are lost my friend. You dont get itā¦Bottom line is the 5K+ is FAR superior in terms of clarity. There is no arguing this. Iām sorry if you already bought the 8K but you made a mistake.
No he sold his pledge long ago.
While Upscaling can be really good as you said it can never be as good as Native input technically. But as with any art; it can be perceived potenially as better. We are dealing with human beings & not test equipment.
I have ordered both. I also see clear benefits to both. But the 8k is going to need more power. Than expected to be there. It will be interesting to see how the 20series gpu new features work as certain optimosations might be able to be applied on vr compositor side. While better for games to have upgraded gpu support. Some benefits could be effective headset driverside.
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The 8K will NOT need more powerful GPU than the 5K, they both render the same signal on the GPU/computer side. The scalier on the 8K in built into the headset.
You must be talking about the 8K X which is TRUE native 8K panel resolution AND signal resolution.
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