Hyped but I hardly doubt that it will improve my Pimax 8k in terms of display and FOV, so if Pimax can make Knuckles compatible somehow, I would skip it entirely, glad to see Valve skipping HTC altogether with their stupid prices and catastrophic support.
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This is big news! Great for the industry.
I’m going to hold out for the Knuckles I think rather than get second hand Vive wands when my Pimax eventually arrives.
Should be a couple of Valve VR games as well. I reckon Boneworks related.
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Knuckles should be compatible out the box. Same ecosystem.
A decent headset delivered to western standards might give Pimax a kick up the proverbial to improve thier own service channels also.
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Exciting news but unless it’s sporting some fantastic new 2160p OLED tech I won’t be rushing to get one 
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Wouldn’t count on Valve knuckles to be fully compatible out of the box. Steamcontroller wasn’t & still at times has issues in some games without tweaking.
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Same res as Vive pro allegedly with 140 FOV
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Does this announcement, along with the recent news that 2.0 LHs are being manufactured by Pimax’s “partner”, point towards the Index using LHs?
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MRTV found a photo that was lightened and it showed the IR sensors on the HMD so yes it will use LHs. See the six dots at the bottom of HMD.
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Yuss just saw that too. I’m pumped, I hope Pimax are working with Valve to make sure their knuckles play nice.
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yes! can’t wait to finally play in VR. So far my pimax is just paperweight.
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With the latest PiTool Knuckles work, skeleton animations not yet, but gestures are all working
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how the cameras are placed in comparison to rift s and quest, the mediocre tracking results of the “old” WMR 2 camera design and that valve would not go 2 steps back in tracking (when advancing in all other aspects) do say something also the knuckels controller use LH tells us that LH is still on with valve
the fact that pimaxusa told us that LH 2.0 is comming in weeks and the fact that the only one producing them is valve was a indicator that valve will come forward with new hardware shortly (i was betting for gdc)
all that new valve stuff will be nice for hardcore gamer and people already having LH but the way how LH needs to de installed and calibrated is a show stopper for a lot of people, inside out like in rift s or quest is the only way to get to more people (the only thing facebook made wrong was having a rift s instead of a quest with cable - and that can be corrected in a short amount of time if they want to)
vavle might be able to double or triple the VR gamers but he quest has the potential to 5 or 10 times that amount - i really hate the fact that a mobile chipset will hold back game experience for us but most developers will go for a wider audience and that will be quest for now, so we might be stuck on the graphics level we seen now for the next 2 years (for a lot/most games, not all)
take the rising (and fall) of the Wii as example, it needs to be easy to install/used, need some social (group) aspects (TV mirror in case of VR) and a price tag of <500$
no one will shell out a good amount of money for something that disfigures the living room and after a few minutes you find out you dont like it (or cant stand it because of VR sickness)
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Exciting news I am looking forward to seeing what Valve can bring to the table but just can’t see it replacing my Pimax just love the Wide fov.
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I like the FOV improvement, but hate the angular res of the headset which is VIVE LEVEL!!! Yuck. All rumors from late 2018 though so REALLY hope it’s not true. Imagine waiting three years just for it to have less fov than the pimax (135 FOV is good don’t take me wrong, I’d take it if it had more angular res than the pimax) but having the same angular/perceived res as the OG vive? Hell no man…
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Yeah, Steam controller isn’t a VR motion controller though designed to work with Steam Basestations. Knuckles are.
Anyway, even with a bit of tweaking is great.
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Pimax needs to get their sh*t together now, otherwise I see some dark months ahead. I can imagine all the VR sales are on hold now until Valve releases more information about their Index. If Valve offers a full Plug & Play package bundled with their Knuckles and a finished VR game (HL:VR?), lots of people will use this chance to jump into VR.
Imagine buying a Pimax right now…you are literally forced to buy products from their competitors(!) in order to make your HMD functional. I’ve never seen something like this before…I mean would you buy a Tesla car to realize the wheels are missing and you have to order them separately from BMW?
I also have serious doubts about the upcoming knuckles from Pimax. Valve worked several years on their controllers and sent out several beta versions to collect feedback from devs and improve them. There will be no reason to buy the knuckles from Pimax if there is an official/polished version of it directly from Valve. The one year delay (Pimax) might cause some serious trouble for them now.
Pimax feels and looks like Early Access now…a rushed product just to be the first on the market in 2019, while Valve might be offering a completely polished package a couple of months later. Perfect timing from Valve…Oculus failed with their Rift S announcement, HTC offers overpriced garbage, Pimax is unfinished and the other WMR HMDs failed to take the next step.
btw…goodbye HTC (finally). I can’t see them surivive this. Their focus on business and “prosumers” didn’t work out for their smartphone sector and won’t for a niche sector like VR. Just a matter of time.
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You miss the point. Steamcontroller was to be for the steam platform. Big TV mode and has had issues with game compatability.
Valve knuckles will also likely have issues with some older wand games. Valve has often broke game controllers in steam in the past.
Simple truth games we won’t know til we do. Though on the plus should be harder to mess it up as it is a motion controller.
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Surely a good news but let’s not be over hypes just because it is not pimax. Valve has not so much hardware in the market and direct customer service remains to be seen, FOV and panel type are unknown not sure I will invest for something just better then a vive PRO. No oled screen would also be detrimental
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i hope its rgb oled,then i will get it for sure and sell my pimax…