We learn from de past. The past helps to foresee the future.
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Wait, we canāt get 118 hz no matter what?
Sureā¦ But what sometimes appears as endless bashing gains us nothing but a bad moodā¦ 
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Thanks once again. 
What I read is we can once:
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Software is optimised and USB issues are fixed.
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Correct quality USB cable is run from ET module directly to PC.
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Thank you for the explanation, I appreciate it.
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Just to chime in here and to make sure this is understood. I think Heliosurge is actually talking about an add-on board that provides USB3 interfaces to all the Pimax HMDs, including the 8K, 5K+ etc. as per the specifications in the old kickstarter and to actually make the modularity concept with the USB-C ports work.
I donāt think thatās going to happen or that it is even technically possible but at this point I think that is what a lot of people are asking for and looking at the current problems with the modules it could even be called a requirement to a degree.
And the past is forgotten when it is no longer repeated.
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Yep since the headsets were not built to spec these earlier models are essentially broken for modules being quietly released as usb 2 only.
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Pimaxusa can you point to where it says on the eye tracking information/order page that in order to get 120hz (now 118) you need to provide your own usb cable and connect it to the eye tracker and computer? I certainly do not remember seeing that and no pimax video mentions this. Pretty upset by this,
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valid point, iād have liked to know before ordering but also keep in mind thats only a problem with 5k+/8k (and maybe artisan), the 8k+ and 8kx seem to have a usb-c 3.0 capable port and should work at full speed after updating firmware (we will see later how this works out, nothing proven yet)
they should at least add a ā*ā to the 120Hz and explaining the matter in the online shop and advertising so that customers are informed about it
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we would have had the hz conversation and still bought the EY for $100 , DFR is the gain
speak for yourself, as tempting as the 99$ sounded, there was shipping (25$) and yesterday i got a additional fee from fedex (2 weeks after the delivery) about ~30ā¬, half for tax (might be ok as it was imported from china to EU) but same amount of money as the tax was handling fee from fedex - nice hidden feature 
if there would have been 30Hz for 5k+ i would have waited to see whats coming next, and after FFR it was already clear that there would not be that much gain as DFR is just the same with moving center (and some lag, depending on the implementation)
edit: with all the added cost for shipping, handling, tax , additional cable and usb3 repaeter/hub its going near 200 bugs
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It was certainly clear to many, but nevertheless, against all common sense, everyone rushed to the first 50 pieces as if there was no tomorrow.
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Fair points too , but most of us would still be buying them ( someone said is was like getting a gpu upgrade ) , my main gripe is the reduced fov , hope they can improve the sensitivity with better software
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At pimax maybe. No one knew they quietly downgraded the usb 3 to usb 2 in the non vision headsets. (Not sure if 8k+ has usb 3 or 2 easy to check the cable end).
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Yes, only 2.0 are not so fine. but it was clear, that the sockets cannot have a full 3.0 bandwidth because the tracking already use a big part. Itās just only one line coming from the computer.
Not true. Usb 3 bandwidth would be sufficient for the ET and Tracking. Remember og Vive and Oculus rift were stressing usb 2 bandwidth; usb 3 has considerably more available.
And it is only 1 line if it was in the all in one cable now it is not.
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tracking data is not that much amount of data, tracking runs fine with usb 2.0 and even the 30Hz eye tracking parallell, not a bandwidth factor at all, it needs to be transmitted in a x ms succession i guess to be usefull
not sure how much data tracking, audio or other internal things together use. But i know no other headset, wich run only on a usb 2.0 port for this basic things without problems. So i mean, this data are lot more as imagine.
after all, 1GB Bandwidth was reserved for the two USB C ports. and at the time of development one might still assume that it would be enough.
Hadnāt someone done a measurement on the 3.0 port of the 8kx? there you can see what is ultimately usable. Divide the value by two, subtract some line loss and you have the maximum that would theoretically be possible for two separate hubs.