I have the 6700 right now. I went here UserBenchmark: Intel Core i7-6700 vs i7-8700K to compare it to the latest 8700k and it’s a whopping 41% increase in performance!!! So would increase my average FPS by 10 atleast…? And I ASSUME that a game I’m playing right now (echo arena) on the vive having 85 FPS on average will SURELY be able to hit constant 90 FPS with this…right?
Well…I already told you my opinion in the other thread -here- , based on my experience working with hardware and test any and every hw that reachs the market, plus pre-production samples.
It largely depends on the other components in your Pc, primarily the graphic card, but for most gaming users a CPU upgrade is just a waste of money…especially from Intel to Intel.
Is it the K version or the straight 6700? because my results on userbenchmark didn’t really indicate that it was worth upgrading to the fastest processor my board would allow which would be the 7700k from the 6600K…
There are few problems with the User Benchmark, which make it quite difficult to use for particular cases. It gives you some kind of statistical average of all reported scores for particular platform, regardless the other parameters, as overclocking, memory speed, etc. So you are looking at thousands of results where someone did heavy OC with memory twice the price of the other guy, who run everything at stock. If you do want to do OC, you have to pick up the fastest results by hand, and if you don’t you must search the stock results too.
Besides the CPU overclock, the memory speed can also make the difference, so at the end, by comparing UB scores, you can get the rough idea, how in general the system behaves, but not, how your system will run.
Also, if you are interested in gaming, you would probably put higher priority on single thread performance, which might get lost in the overall score, if you compare for example 4 core i7 to 6 core i7.
Most of the benchmarks show only a small portion of the changes and improvements, mostly limited to specific
fields of application, or the general usage, not to the gaming aspect itself; but there are so many aspects and possible setup inconsistencies that could lead to incorrect results.
If you want to get a realistic idea of the performance, look for 3dMark results for general gaming testing, or better, look for direct game testing with multiple games, but don’t get stuck on a single source, look for many and compare…
In any case, on your GPU, any newer Intel cpu has very limited benefits, except if you can maybe afford to get an LGA 2011 or 2066 socket CPU , with bigger caches and take advantage of its quad channel DDR4 by installing four memory modules.
Personally I am still using the i7 5820K Haswell-E on a X99 chipset because I haven’t still seen real performance gain with real world gaming, or very little, not much to justify the cost of a newer Intel CPU that have just very marginal architecture improvements, other than higher clock speed.
But any unlocked CPU can do that job alone…
It’s way better to go for faster/bigger Ram if you’re still running on DDR3 , or a quad channel socket CPU/chipset combo if you don’t care for the budget.
Intel generations do not mean much anymore, as Intel themselves has already released the same architecture as a “new generation” several times and on top of that, mixed different “revisions” into one “generation” too, so in short, it is a mess.
i9-9900K is supposed to be the most refined “current generation”, which, depending on whom you ask, is either Skylake or Kaby Lake or Coffee Lake. I do not expect any major changes in the arch, but rather tweaks and fixes from previous revisions. The most important thus probably will be the clock bump, which is so far expected to be 5GHz single core clock and also quite high all core Turbo clock. These two things alone however could have significant impact on gaming.
So watch out for the gaming benchmarks (and power consumption )
Yeah my use case I have 4.4ghz clock on my 6600k and it is on a closed loop, I don’t have my 1080ti overclocked as it is on air in a fairly cramped mini ITX case. I assume that the equivalent 7700k that I am benching against in the userbenchmark screencap will not be stock…but I am unsure.
Given that I have a relatively high core clock (and could probably push it higher if I didn’t mind faffing about to get it stable) that is where I am wondering whether it would be worth quite a considerable sum to upgrade to 7700k or a very significant sum to deprecate my lounge computer to a music computer and build a new 8700k or i9 based build in a new case and transfer the 1080ti over…Currently my DDR4 ram is stable at 2400 from stock 2133 but latency is pretty high at 62ns…
I am in a fortunate position where I could spend an ungodly sum on a computer (confronted with the price tag of the 2080ti my wife just shrugs her shoulders in resignation)…but I also don’t want to just burn money for the sake of it…I don’t do streaming, don’t do video and the computer is basically for gaming, VR and TV so I don’t think I need a 12 core, 24 thread megabeast for the odd time I unpack a .rar file…
If you have some app or game you already know is starved now by the CPU (or in which your GPU is idling) then it might be worthy to have a look into newer models, but I would definitely wait for i7-9900K/9700K benchmarks and consider those first before looking into 8700K, as they may come with some additional fixes under the hood, which you could appreciate regardless your original needs.
On the other hand, if your GPU is already maxed out in the critical apps, it may happen that the new CPU would not help much.
Here are 3DMark VRMark Blue Room actual user results for the 2080Ti.
The results for an i7 6700K have a low of 4348 to a high of 5018 depending on brand and probably oc. This compares favorably with the i7-8700K that has a low of 4462 and high of 5249. The 8700K vs 6700K comes in only 4.6% higher in the high vs high result and only 2.6% higher for low vs low. The mid-point of each has the 8700K at 3.7% higher. No results for the 9900K
Granted these are a limited number of results for each cpu but I’m seeing similar numbers coming in on other sites. I’ll be sticking with my i7 6700K for now.
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