I would bet a lot that the eye tracker is only measuring where your pupils are moving (just from reading about eye tracking solutions) and not morphology of face or retina to screen distance or even surface of eye to screen distance.
I’ve used very good lenses all of my life in spectacles, contacts and tools as well as toys. I often do binocular microscopic work. I purchase amazing lenses all the time, from lens companies and tools with amazing lenses where the tool companies bought the lenses from lens companies. They’re not overly expensive at all. I get crazily good lenses for my spectacles tailored to me in every way, with AR coating and hardening layers with scratch resistance for about 200 or so Aussie dollars which is about US$2.50 (exaggeration of course).
I don’t understand the VR companies pretending to make lenses by cutting up old overhead projectors, especially after they saw the popularity of the Gear VR lens mods people were doing. VR lenses are trash toys and wide fov makes them more noticeable. I think you’d be shocked at what we could’ve had for the money pimax flushed down the drain with multiple crazy iterations of trash toy lenses.
So that’s what I mean by lenses are crap. The fact other companies also have crap lenses doesn’t make them good. And as said the wide fov makes the crap lenses more obvious so wide fov VR manufacturers like pimax should be leading the way with approaching lens companies about making real lenses.
But this strays from my point that if static distortion algorithm can’t be nailed down then many algorithms for dynamic movement won’t be any better.
It’s not just about the lenses looking good. It’s also weight, cost, mass production, etc. I’d rather just wait for the eye tracking and distortion correction to come out instead of making blind guesses tbh. All we know now is that it’s going to be implemented. We don’t know the functionalities of the eye tracker. We can assume that if Pimax has gone as far to say they will implement dynamic distortion correction, it’s probably worth it to some degree.
They weigh very little, cost very little and the companies are specialist mass producers who also have the ability to churn out custom changes from their factories with little effort. But keep arguing to keep your discarded old overhead projector lenses so you’ll never know how good it could be. Lenses are very difficult for people who don’t make lenses and we’ve seen this. Then there’s companies who have done it for centuries and do it well for a very reasonable price.
I’m sure they don’t cost very much if they’re for spectacles. VR lenses could be a whole different ballgame. If it was so easy to have perfect cheap lenses for VR headsets, don’t you think they’d exist already?
Well people with no expertise or experience currently make them and use non specialist factories to make them. Why people are against handing it over to experts building on centuries of experience and resources is beyond me.
Why hasn’t anyone made a perfect wide fov vr hmd yet? If it could be done surely it would have already been done by now…sarcasm. You won’t know until the path is trodden so why resist the thought that vr companies should try out what lens experts can do for them.
Can 8k X pledgers upgrade to the 8k X RE? If yes, for how much?
What is the weight of the 8k X RE vs the normal 8k X?
Is there a comfort difference between 8k X and 8k X RE?
I’d love to know on ‘Pimax Day 2’ if prescription lens glasses wearers (waiting to use the much discussed prescription lens module) can also use the 7Invensun designed eye tracking module!
My suspicion is this will be unlikely as one module would have to be designed to fit over the other and that would take more time and money for Pimax to design or maybe even prevent eye tracking from working altogether?!
I imagine until this question is answered it would be wise for Pimax users (who wear glasses) to hold off from ordering the eye tracking module early, despite temptations.
I’d say hold off until we see the performance gains for Dynamic Foveated Rendering.
That’s what Pimax said was their cost. It might be due to the lens’ highly unusual design, a “rush” charge to minimized delays, or some other reason.
That’s what they wasted dealing with trash toy companies and trying to design it themselves. This is my point…if only they went to real lens makers with this money.
I was observing that also and posted that Zeiss even has a VR HMD - small FoV - but I was wondering how expensive it would be to have a „Professional“ lens developed with them ( as an example).
What is confirmed as being worked on by Pimax representatives (@PimaxUSA, @Sean.Huang, @Matthew.Xu ), but still yet to be addressed or shown in any media.
Here’s hoping we’ll hear more about them on Pimax day 2, if a Pimax representative could comment in this thread and take note of these items to address them on the Pimax Day 2 stream that would be appreciated.
- Dynamic distortion correction (Confirmed)
- New lenses (Confirmed as they were strongly hinted at in this post,
also if they were the same existing lenses the information would be free to talk about and not under NDA.) - New different controller design (Confirmed)
- New different tracking ring design (Confirmed)
- Face cooling fitting solution for comfort kit (Confirmed)
- Strong hints at 90hz mode for the 8K+ and the 8KX (native or upscaled 90hz we do not know)
- Would like to know whether comfort mod will offer viewing distance adjustability or a face foam bracket for this feature to reduce eye strain caused by distortion from suboptimal headset placement/viewing distance.
brilliant is not the word I would use.