Some technical info about 8k/5k extracted from the firmware

I’m a very currious person and need to kill time waiting for my Pimax headset. I extracted the strings from the firmware (p2.dfu) found in PiTool 0.90 install folder. Here is what I found:

W9110B LED Controler

ANX7530 LCD Controler/Scaler
https://www.analogix.com/en/products/dp-mipi-converters/anx7530

stm32f4xx_it Eternal ST microcontroler, thank you Oculus DK1 :wink:
http://www.st.com/stm32f4-discovery

AK8963 3 axis magnetic compas
https://www.digikey.com/catalog/en/partgroup/ak8963/44099

bmi055 6 axis gyro accelerometer

LTR303 Light sensor
https://eu.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Lite-On/LTR-303ALS-01?qs=Ml%2FaxAEbwm%252bm%252betMkBDC8g%3D%3D

JDI LPM034M131A LCD 1700*1440 3.42" what ?
http://www.taiho-kokusai.com/taihou/product/product1_en.php

SAMSUNG AMS567JD09 OLED 2560*1440 5.7" 60Hz “RG/BG PenTile” 5k BE?

BOE VS055QHMNH069P0 LCD 2560*1440 5.5" 60Hz “RGB Vertical Stripe” 5k?

TIANMA TL055BDXP03 LCD 2560*1440 5.5" 70Hz “RGB Vertical Stripe” 5k+?

SHARP LS055D1SX02 LCD 3840*2160 5.5" 60Hz “Raimbow RGB” (RG/BR/GB) 8k?

Some more strings :star_struck:

IMAX P2
Current BBL ctrl startegy is brainwarp!
Current BBL ctrl startegy is normal!
…\app\ take_apart_detect .c

Link to 4k panel that seems to be the same as 8k, but 8k have two of those :slight_smile:
https://community.openmr.ai/t/lcd-panel-type/1697/4

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I also found this:

…\hal\driver\ANX7530\Flash\Flash.c

So it looks like it’s possible to update the ANX7530 code, which is good news!

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Awesome if @Sjef hasn’t seen this he will like as well.

Nice details. :beers::sunglasses::+1::sparkles:

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@Heliosurge
So both 5k+ and 8k has a 5.5“ LCD.
You did not want to believe me when I told you that it makes no logical sense to me that the 5k+ panel to be much smaller than the 8k panel. Even though Robin said 10% smaller panel…

the same display area: 68x121mm.
contrast ratio 5k+: 800:1 and 8k: 1200:1.

hmm…

edit:

color gamut of the 5k+: 70% NTCS (100% NTCS = 90% sRGB), in the “summary”:

color gamut of the 8k: 130% sRGB.

So thats the technical background of the color banding issue of the 5k+ sweviver mentioned?

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I calculate from pixel pitch.
8k = 806 ppi
5k+ = 537 ppi(5k is 490 ppi, so 9.7% increased, oculus go =538 ppi)
5k be = 518 ppi (vive 448 ppi, vive pro 615, so I don’t hope that this oled will look great like vive pro, acer mixed = 706 ppi)

my axon7 is around 538 ppi at 5.5" display, so I can assume some pixel size, but up to the lenses magnification too (very bad on daydream2, good on mojing s1 and great on wearality).

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Hold up. ANX7530 | www.analogix.com according to this it says it supports two 4k screens at 60hz. Sooo, is a 60hz native 4k mode actually feasible after all?

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Interesting findings :slight_smile: this display seems to be using RGBW matrix, but even then it would not give full QHD res.

What confuses me is the reference to SHARP LS055D1SX02, which the reference you posted suggests is used in Pimax 4K, since it has been kind of proven (by pixel shot comparisons) that the displays in 4K and 8K are not the same.

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So this finally confirms that the CLPL panel is just a myth (just guessing…) , and all these panels listed, at least the ones using LCD are common LCD panels available on the market and are all working at 60Hz by default, of course Pimax could have been overdriving these to a little higher values, like in the case of the Tianma panel…but… ah ! If I now recall back all the past bitching and bullshitting about these type of panel’s refresh values that some forum people made here…puah…

No need to say more… :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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Very interested in this.

4k x2 @60hz (4:4:4 obviously) would make the 8K be the perfect desktop HMD.

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I don’t think it’s 4k x 2 @ 60Hz, I think it’s 4k x 2k @60Hz… I suspect the datasheet is listed this way (pixels x pixels @ refresh) to avoid ambiguity around resolution names (i.e. 720p, 1440p, 2.5k, 4k, 5k, etc…).

Interestingly there is a chip from analogics that supports 4k x 2k @ 120hz with dual screen output: the ANX7539 (www.analogix.com). Can anybody who has a physical device and who is willing to open said device, confirm which ANX____ chip is actually on the Pimax board in the device?

(edit: spelling)

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We’d need to wait for someone like @Sjef to confirm the 5k+ size as pimax stated smaller panel. Which might not require tge firmware to change inside. Remember they said they were still going to sell original 5k in some markets if which case we are missing a 5k panel type.

But is interesting that the 8k is some kind if rainbow panel & doesn’t seem to look right compared to the old p4k. But this might be related to optics.

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He said 9% sharper due to smaller panel which is demonstrated due to increase detail on close up.

But both panels are same size. So how then is one smaller?
Cognitive dissonance seems quite common these days :joy:

Ok, have had the 5k+ almost 24 hours in possession now, so it’s about time to open it up, LOL :slight_smile: Going to see if it’s even possible, right now …

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Just looking at 5k+ panel -Tiamna brand http://www.panelook.com/TL055BDXP03_Tianma_5.5_LCM_overview_32560.html
there is also 2 older iteration of this panel, but here is my question if Tiamna develop next version let say with better colors palette than can we just replace thouse panels in our homes? Will it work with current electronic ?

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If it’s just a new revision it should be a drop in replacement. When a constructor makes a new revision of some component they usually stop producing the old one.

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8ms responsetime on the 5k+ hm

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Ok so I managed to open it this far:

However, as you can clearly see by the screw in the upper right corner, the outer shell is not wide enough to get the inner part out. In other words, I’m pretty sure you have to split the shell open itself. That outer shell consists of 2 parts but it seems they’re just glued together. Not sure yet if I’m brave enough to try to open that part :slight_smile:

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Ok, making progress with the shell, it seems it’s not glued … In the name of science I’m going to see if I can open it without destroying my pimax 5k+, lol

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