Pimax On VR Roundtable

While I can agree for the most part. They need to minimally post any kind of update unless your cool with a potential endless delay. As there mind set is to side step questions instead of simple answers.

Like the testers got the headsets delivered with minimal communication on setup & more. So did I with the forum. Almost 0 instruction; just left to figure things out.

They need to get their house in order. Or we may end up with a Hardlight Vest.

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Hi, thanks for your input. As an 8K-X backer I’m not OK with the ‘radio silence’, just have become more accepting over time that I backed something probably impossible to make in the timescale I thought it would arrive. So of course, it never did arrive, not even any news.

My only issue is they have my money, but you could argue this is the risk of Kickstarter. Basically it’s my own stupid fault, I got over excited, and wanted the best. In retrospect if I’d understood technology better a 5K OLED or 8K would have been fine to back. I guess we live and learn.

Hopefully soon, an update will be given so 8K-X backers know where they stand. Cheers.

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Did you read my post? Point out something I’ve said incorrectly in that post

Maybe it will not be irresponsible. You’ve nothing to back that up with.

You put at lot of maybe’s into your post so you’re not saying yes or no, you’re just saying maybe. :grin:

Your welcome. As @mixedrealityTV & I had a great chat. We both agree Pimax is a diamond in the rough & with the right polish they will shine. But they do need our patience & they need to be willing to adapt. To be an inspirational leader in VR they need to not only learn from the competition mistakes & their own as well.

But admittedly it’s harder to change a behavior tgat has been established. Much like a many have trouble quitting smoking.

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I know more details then you realize. It is only my discretion that has kept me quiet to give them time to sort things out.

They have been spreading themselves too thin trying to manage things outside their comfort zone.

Unlike yourself many of us original forum members have been here long before the 8k.

I am concerned about the repeat of bad habits of dodging straightforward easy to answer questions.

The Pre-order fiasco web page alone does not bide well. One if many known details & I have info on not known details that without their feedback will be revealed come friday.

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I have more than enough info to back my “maybes” that is only meant to be polite. But no I won’t be goaded in revealing some of what I know before friday.

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There’s nothing that you know that’s going to change anything, you can’t predict the future.

The pre-orders will help increase production and Pimax can still hit their target by Christmas, simple.

You can’t increase production simply by having customer orders. They might pull a rabbit out of the hat. But like I said I know more than you think. Friday I will present results on testing & findings.

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Does Pimax have some kind of cash flow proplem ?

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Is Facebook buying Pimax?

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The thing you need to watch is HTC buying them lol

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It’s really starting to feel like they want to fail.

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You left me hanging now Dan. I will check back with you on Friday lol

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That’s strange, you are talking as how I would expect those investors interested in this quick cash would talk. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn you have some of your own cash invested in this.

As about targets, I was not referring to promises made to investors but those made to backers. I was referring to how they struggle to improve their production above the ridiculous number they are currently announcing, in contrast to how self confident they were claiming to be in their chance to deliver most backers before Christmas.

From that I conclude they have been well unprepared for starting this mass production. This casing bottlenecking the whole production shouldn’t have happened. They should have made production tests much earlier to prevent that from happening.

Now could they still manage to deliver most backers before christmas ? TBH I doubt it, and I mean I REALLY doubt it. Given the ridiculous amount of unit produced during the past weeks I would assume that not only the target will be missed but they will even be far from it.

We’ll see, I will apologize if they prove me wrong. Nevertheless it doesn’t change my mind about the fact the chance of succeeding in that goal (backers delivery) would be increased by focussing 100% on improving the production instead of doing demos around the world and opening pre-orders.

I will also not change my mind about delivering backers ASAP being the n°1 priority to ensure a further commercial success. Because while the youtubers have done an awesome job giving the initial push (a pure gift from them pimax should be thankful for, and they also already helped a lot with the betatesting), the backers are the ones who will allow to reach a wider audience. With their feedbacks they will extend the communication initiated by the youtubers, reaching deeper in smaller communities but this multiplied by several thousands backers.

This will produce more sales (and bigger ROI to the investors). Word of mouth from the thousands backers will be their next best weapon to ensure the best commercial success. The faster they deliver HMDs to them and the better they handle support to the problems those early adopters are and will be facing, the more positive image those early adopters will spread about pimax as a company. Not only are the backers extremely important as influencers who can create more sales, but they are also extremely important to iron out the remaining software (and possibly hardware) bugs.

So when you say “backers have done their jobs and should now just gently wait pimax deign to deliver their HMDs” you are completely wrong. Backers were not just a wallet to help initiating bigger investments, they are an army who can hold pimax flag and an army who can help make the product much more bug free and userfriendly by the time real customers will get their own HMD. That’s why improving production should be pimax n°1 priority now, and improving customer support should be priority n°1 bis, and not the last of their concerns as you seem to claim.

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We have been exasperated by this during the entire KS. Many shouted they need to get some professionals in for CES, even KS volunteers offered to help, didn’t happen, brought somebodies mum to run the demos by the looks of it. international e-commerce website? done in-house, no security, hacked and about the worst anybody with some minor tech experience could have forewarned. It is completely baffling how little they invest in key areas until it is too late and damage gets done. Software, tech support and build quality are all looming ahead. As yourself, @Sjef and @Heliosurge said, they need somebody in that can rapidly manage this rough diamond and give it some polish and then it might be worth the asking price.

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You should read my previous posts and you’ll see just to see who’s side I’m on, just have a look. It’s only now that some backers are starting to ask the questions you are.

Pimax number one Priority is now to delivery headsets to all backers then all pre orders customers. They were always going to allow pre orders first. My point is that now they have no choice but to ramp up production very quickly.

And as I’ve said before in other post but at what cost?

Of course you can increase production by having more orders. Another poster here who’s company builds products explains very clear how that works in another thread. A lot of it is common sense too.

No idea. Not that I am aware of.

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You think so. We will see as I have worked for companies with this mindset methode & there not in business anymore.

You can ramp up production by increasing volume demand when you haven’t hit your current volume targets due to production issues. Common sense set target meet target; raise target.

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I read vives as wives. Lmao.

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