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Sounds like hard work which is the experience I had with the 5k+
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Understanding the connection between supersampling and performance is hard work?
What do you mean?
Heh, I think this is the first time this reviewer has popped up on screen, that I haven’t had a: “Hey, It’s Phoebe from Friends” double take. 
I’m probably spoiled. This was still hard work. Could drive you insane. 
Not following you. Looks cool though.
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Looks like I’ll be in the next batch of releases given my preorder number. Pimax has done nothing to assure buyers this is a completed product. If the first batch of preorder customers reviews aren’t overwhelmingly positive and feature complete I will probably pass.
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So your order is in the second batch? Congratulations.
Pimax has all the hardware in the headset already. The XR two is there, the Tobiii eye tracking is integrated. all you’re waiting on is the software updates. which will be done when they are done
Let’s say something horrible happened with your unit and your device came with a set of plastic lenses instead of glass.
Guess what? The lenses can be removed and replaced.
Writing that you’re going to back out if it’s not feature complete when you get it, when you have already pre-ordered and all the hardware is there, and you’re just waiting is rather rash.
Most reviews have already been ridiculously positive when it comes to the core components of screen, lenses, and tracking.
The negative is your warranty ticks away. So if ET takes 6 months or more to implement then those features you have minimal warrantied use of those features.
So I can appreciate quite well on not wanting to receive the Crystal not finished with base model features.
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Well, if that ends up becoming the warranty situation, then I understand that completely.
They wouldn’t be the smartest company if they pulled that particular move
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Would certainly love to see some AMD GPU owner reviews too. 6000 series and above at least.
How do we even know and can be very sure the FoV is actually 103° ?
This is rather a generous statement. Not really disagreeing all that much. But the lack of key features is quite annoying and makes me very nervous to drop any time and money on to this headset.
Re: the ‘Optional Wide FoV’ lenses. Where do we have any firm information about their existence, specs (claimed™) et. cetera?
I’m still waiting on @PimaxQuorra 's follow-up from my query for clarification (further up this thread) for a few weeks now. Some things that aren’t trivial IMO…
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In my opinion, there’s nothing wrong with having principles. Of course it’s @zuiquan1 's choice to exercise them and zuiquan1’s right to provide an opinion as to why. (not saying that you’re denying this, but just to be sure as the tone of your message seems to indicate your disagreement on said position)
Personally, as you probably already know, I’m in or near the same camp as zuiquan1. I personally believe it’s bad business to release a product and take full payment, with so many features missing. Features that have been part of their advertising push about the product’s abilities for quite a while now.
One can surely state that since all hardware is there, that everything should be just fine.
However, unless we work for PIMAX and have first-hand knowledge of what’s going on, we really have no way to precisely know how far along their testing is, what constraints and blockers still exist, and whether those issues are purely software-related or potentially also hardware related.
I believe PIMAX have reached some level of confidence that they are willing to release the product in an unfinished state. That’s fine for PIMAX, because they’re privy to information that we’re not.
What we’re left with is seeing what they want us to see in their marketing pushes. We’re left with inconsistencies in information that they’re rather slow to correct/clarify.
While we do have some reviews out now, I’m frankly not all that impressed with the quality of them at this point.
Yes, there are positive points that personally I’m happy about.
However, I believe for many (especially skeptics) with a lower tolerance for risk, PIMAX just has to do better.
I think from a ‘holistic’ standpoint, it’s premature to purchase the Crystal right now.
If one has a higher tolerance for risk and doesn’t care about the other features promised, then I can understand their decision to purchase now. In my opinion, that doesn’t meet what I believe is an overall accepted viewpoint around the principle that advertised product features should be tested and proven ready at time of retail. Right now, the consumer is left not really knowing for sure if they’ll get a product working as intended based on claims and advertisements of the product maker…
A ‘we’ll get to it at some point’ attitude by the product maker is irresponsible and unprofessional in my opinion.
If I purchased the Crystal right now, then I have acknowledge I’ll be taking a risk that could turn out not so well for me.
I hope for the sake of those taking this risk, that, indeed, all will be well in SHORT order.
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Nah. It doesn’t work until it does. Remember the pimax 4k? All hardware was ready. They said they’d get 4k natively going. But turned out they couldn’t. Or the pimax eye tracker. It was a nice promise but turned out a dud.
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They never had 4K going on the 4k I know because I was there trying to help them get it working alongside other forum members. They did manage to get 1440 P working
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I miss the @SweViver testing days. He threw everything and the kitchen sink at it. His early Pimax testing was legendary and all these influencers need to have a look at those videos. The amount of hardware and software in the testbeds was unprecedented.
This beta test up to now has been pretty useless but i hear the thing has great visuals 
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Sorry but I find it incredibly naive to take Pimax claims at face value. They say this and that will be available after release, I flat out do not believe them. I have years of experience with this company, it is their actions that have caused a breakdown in trust. I am still waiting for stuff promised for the 8kx that were never delivered.
Pimax can convince me otherwise by finishing the Crystal. Full stop. Once I see reviews lauding the Crystal’s many advertised features from Non-Pimax people, I will be more than happy to jump in.
As of right now I see no reason to make such an expensive purchase on blind faith and I don’t think forgoing a $30 preorder is in any way “rash.”
I’m kind mad my ticket came up so fast lol, I wan’t to be able to see the product in the wild, and not beta test units.
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I think @VRGIMP27 is anything but naive.
The issue is a perception one: one the one side you have somebody, who is keen on getting his hands on new hardware with higher specs as soon as possible, and cooly examines if what the prototype-state offering he sees in the Crystal is a starting base for him to work with. He wouldn‘t just wait for Pimax but would also try to figure out things for himself, having a deep knowledge of relevant tech. I believe he also ultimately accepts that some features may never be put to work successfully. In his eyes this is the price he is willing to pay to have next gen performance (on some aspects, certainly not weight, lenses, size & comfort) today. You could say he is not buying a commercial product, he is buying an experience with many question marks, and he is fine with it.
On the other side you have people like you & me, who are willing to pay a high price for next gen performance, but still apply regular commercial commodity standards to the product they would be paying for, and that means it simply has to perform out of the box on day one all advertised features as long as they were not clearly marked as a growth potential only.
These two views are fundamentally different in their level of expectation and I don‘t think either side will be able to convince the other side to see it their way.
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So his retail version has one set of 35PPD glass lenses.
So where are the 42PPD lenses? It’s truly shocking the hardware is not finished when shipped.
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