MRTV's HP Reverb G2 through the lens video

Why does he need to stop reviewing a headset? And why would he make all kinds of 8kX reviews on a pre production sample from CES? Don’t you think that flooding reviews on a pre production model might give ppl the wrong picture if the release model has improved since then?

You might be the only one as thus far with a small sampling no one has said anything good on the SMAS. In fact one said it is maybe on par with Oculus Go.

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@Heliosurge

I have read this comment, i am not afraid of this

Seb if you do it, never give your address to Fabrizio … he might come looking for you, for apostasy against his God Pimax :grin:

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Could you try to measure the difference in FOV with the Real o Virtual (RoV) tool?
The guys at the Telegram Channel about Pimax are asking me, I’m curious too.

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Pimax is doing absolutely the right thing by waiting before sending the 8KX to reviewers. It’s their flagship product, it’s very expensive compared to other consumer headsets, the DMAS isn’t ready yet, the current firmware has people complaining about low brightness, and there’s some kind of mistake/confusion about which foams to include in the boxes.

Imagine if they’d sent that to Linus for review. They should wait, get everything right (with help from backers who are receiving units and can help test/feedback) and then send units to reviewers.

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Just don’t mind Fabrizio, they had a bad year down there, and then you spit into his pasta!

P.S. Pimax said they’d not send to reviewers before all backers were treated. I think that implies that no reviewer gets his early either. So nobody is “missing out”. And I don’t know of any competition in the realms of the bigger YTs who’d have backed it, so Sebastian isn’t going to miss out “the first review” either.

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‘they’ had a bad year down there

I think the world had a bad year.

Not cool Jo :disappointed:

Everything is portable… if you try hard enough.

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Out of interest. Were you not a Pimax 8KX kickstarter backer?

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Nope, I backed the original 8K and upgraded to 5k Plus.

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Ahh ok, thats a shame.

I don’t think there will be much difference between your 8KX and the latest version imo, but you probably think the same. The Pimax lenses are the problem for me and it’s the one part Pimax failed to change in the 8KX. I think that will cost them dear.

By the sounds of it the G2 will have all the clarity and non of the FOV while Pimax will have all the FOV but non of the clarity ie convergence, edge to edge sharpness and wide sweet spot. with Index sitting somewhere in the middle.

It makes me wonder how long before either Oculus or Valve pull the trigger on a wider FOV ie 140 degrees with the clarity of the G2.

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The problem with good optic is that price really never goes down… even for arcrylic lens…

@dstar imho described it nicely here:
https://community.openmr.ai/t/vision-8kx-and-120hz-upscale-mode/29040/19?u=noamloop
The lenses and panels are probably not bad. But perhaps just driven a little too much outside their sweetspot. Hiding the large FoV option by default and providing an experimental flag in PiTool that enables it (and perhaps also other borderline features) might be a good idea. Then the advertisements would have to be adapted to contain the FoV values that most people are using anyways, but I don’t think that many are buying headsets just by the numbers without looking for further informations anyways.
Important thing is that people have a good experience when they put the headset on. So the recommended (and default) settings should be in the sweetspot.

You need to consider what version you’re drawing your experience from.

In the 5K+ sn203 I had distortions, in the 5K+ sn204 I had no distortions.

In the latter, the lenses were fine, and I A/B compared them to Index. The 5K+ (204) won that comparison, as the Index’ lenses had incredible glare. If you haven’t tried it yet, it’s not just simple glare. It’s stronk violent glare. So, we’ll have to see how the 8KX will be. I hope it’ll be accurately assembled.

I don’t agree to mask a problem like NoamLoop suggested. I also would see no reason why. This is not about “making a good impression by cheating”. It’s about accurate assembly and distortion profiles.

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I have a 5k+ 204 and see noticable distortions in large FoV but have no problems in normal FoV. Perhaps they can completely get rid of the effect, e.g. with dynamic profiles at some point, like StarVR does it. I just think until then it might be better to stay in the range where most people feel fully comfortable. In the end it’s about the experience, not the numbers.
It’s not cheating, it’s looking at what is technically and comfort wise optimal and define the specs accordingly.

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You just keep telling your honest opinion. Its outstanding having someone not on a payroll. Anyone who would attack someone showing the truth is a ( insert your word here )

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…big old turd! Yes.

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Not too nice, JoCool.

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Another truth, is the unfortunate reality an accurate conclusion on a pre production model 8K-X isn’t the truth for a production model, so the conclusion of any ‘review’ to buy or not becomes blurred.

No one with production model 8K-X on here (using a high end PC, quality GPU and 6DOF) has noticable distortions and if they do it’s minimal and fixed with different size face cushions.

NB: This doesn’t mean MRTV’s opinion isn’t honest or inaccurate but it does draw attention to the need for comparing like for like (identical headsets).

MRTV channel is indeed unique, precisely because it’s presented by an entertaining enthusiastic and independent reviewer, however, all reviewers (and equally consumers) of technology hardware are still open to personal bias - as this is what makes us human after all.

Ultimately it was perhaps a sub optimal decision of Pimax to supply MRTV with a VR headset that was unfinished and equally sub optimal of MRTV to compare unfinished headsets with finished items from competing manufacturers, because ‘the truth’ cannot then be ascertained with any finesse.

Ultimately none of this matters unless one is a 'truth" aficionado.

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