I think there is a market for the 8kX at it’s price. But only if it is a straight upgrade from the G2: Better FoV, better tracking, equal or better sound (so DMAS by default!), easy configuration, brilliant display, distortion free lenses. I think Pimax has a solution for the first three, a good plan for the fourth with the Experience and can hopefully tune the last two with software (both colors and distortions via dynamic measures from eye tracking - which should them imho also become default).
As an 8kX backer I hope of course that the current hardware revision will be capable of reaching that goal with software tweaks. If not I think Pimax should throw everything at getting out an 8kX+ that is able to do this. (And if it means 20° less FoV but even more details to get the lenses perfect then that’s good! Would still outclass most of the competition by far in that regard). That’s imho a lot more important than controllers and what not for which solutions exist. All just imho of course.
“I don’t know, Rick” I think your are specting far too much, but I’m totally with you.
Yeah that’s also a risk, especially with Pimax, what do you do if it arrives defective … You’ll have to pay shipping to China and 2 times import taxes (at least in my country). So yeah that’s definitely a risk
No fake, it all exists in some universe - hopefully ours 
Edit: Ok, the other meme…
I have a Samsung Odyssey and I would never buy another WMR headset.
The controller tracking isn’t good enough for me. Also, the controller batteries don’t last that long and it’s really annoying constantly having to have extra batteries charging up.
I hated the way that WMR locked my desktop when I was in VR - if you need to use the keyboard you have to unlock it first.
Never tried a WMR headset. Thought the Windows company might get a good Windows integration done. Apparently not…
Having replacable batteries is imho good, I still like my old Samsung Note 4 because of this. But having at least the option to charge them inside the controller would really be good. The external charger and several battery packs are just another thing to keep around.
Tracking will be considerably better with added cameras.
I also strongly disagree on the batteries, there is nothing worse than a lipo/lion pack you can’t replace. My vive wands last 60% of what they used to and opening them is a huge risk. Plus if your controllers die you just have to wait until they charge to keep playing. AA’s feel cheap, but NiMH keeps it feeling modern. I’m not so quick to jump ship over this hmd, but it looks to address a lot of key WMR issues
I will not negate the advantages of a greather FOV but the current Pimax offering is 1299$US without tracking or controlers.
1,876.00$ US for the complete Kit it’s 3 time the advertised price of G2… not 2 but 3 times… Yes it’s cheaper then a Xtal or a StarVr so his a Tesla vs a Lamborghini.
I’m agree here , Pimax gives me more 3d (depth) presence than low res. HMDs like OG Vive or CV1. For me vertical resolutions & pixel arrangement make this difference more than % of stereoverlap. However oled colors and gearvr lenses for Vive gave me more immerison in some simulators than Pimax at least from the very beginig but after introducing Pitool with brightnes and saturation options I’m not missing that munch Vive strong points.
No doubt. The 8kx isn’t even on my radar because the price is absurd given the number of issues I’ve had with my 5k+. The quest is way worse than my 5k+ setup, but when I consider it cost 400 new I do that sort of math as well (is my pimax really providing a 3x better experience?)
That said, I’m pretty happy with the 5k+ and still consider it a vr 2.0 device, I know it will last a couple of years if nothing crazy goes wrong. Same can be said for the 8kx. Many people are still enjoying gen1 vr.
That’s already an older WMR headset. I had the subsequent gen, the odyssey+ and I always felt it tracked pretty damn good. Of course the room has to be well lit, which is a bit of a downside, I like to turn the lights off because of possible light leaks. But if this G2 tracks even better, I think it will be good enough for most use cases. Also see the vid from MRTV where he had his controllers behind his shoulders and tracking still worked fine
The truth is - there is not a single device on the market, that “has it all”. Some offer better colors, some offer better FOV, some offer better resolution, refresh rates, etc. Will there be one out someday? Absolutely. Technology evolves. Which company will have it first? Who knows. Meanwhile, I will use my 8KX (after I get it later this year), because FOV and resolution are important to me personally. When THE device comes out - I will get that one for sure.
For Assetto, the better colors and increased brightness will be most welcomed. Good brightness adds a nice level of depth and sharpness on its own.
we can neglect the fact that the G2 is a far more portable device then the ones with Valve tracking…
So the G2 releases 15 sept in the UK: HP Announces Reverb G2 – Price, Pre-orders, and Release Date
New vid … coming up HP REVERB G2 TRACKING - How Good Is The Reverb G2 Tracking? Testing Occlusion, Climbing, Boxing ... - YouTube
Very interesting video. Maybe he can make another about its performance in Onward/Contractors/Pavlov at the shooting ranges.
I want to add, I do have WMR tracking as well here with the Odyssey and Reverb Pro v2 - which have the same tracking algorithm like the Reverb G2. This is speaking of the case where both Controllers are visible, I am not talking about being out of the cameras’ FOV.
If you expect rock-solid tracking that you can use competitively in Onward, Contractors or in Pavlov VR, you are mistaken. The Reverb G2 won’t have that. It holds steady forward, yes, in the rough sense. But if you try to watch through Iron-Sights and bring that up close to your headset so you can increase the visibility through Iron-Sights: The tracking will wander around a bit.
For that use-case the Lighthouse system is just unmatched by any tracking system I have tried yet… 
2 cams vs 4 cams, how can that be the same algo?
How can that be a different algo? It has a greater FOV that’s all. The platform is WMR software. All it has learnt is in there for all HMDs in v2004. It’s machine learning or deep learning anyway, buzzwords aside. The SEs at MS know their sh*t
Well, just pointing out that if you want to track something based on 2 camera’s recording, then that’s going to be a totally different algo than one combining 4 cams. Especially if several cam images combined can result in more accurate position tracking