Facebook was a Brand long before they bought Oculus. No one is making excuses by pointing out facts.
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Zuckerberg was nothing before he launched Facebook. He had no brand recognition so brand recognition has nothing to do with anything.
Pimax had a far better Kickstarter than Oculus so letâs not put Pimax on a superficial disadvantage. They had the money upfront.
The reality is Pimax over promised and under delivered. Thatâs a business decision made by Pimax employees. Seven years later they are no further ahead after $40million of further cash injections.
No controllers. No base stations. Bad reputations for failed promises and bad customer relations.
Denial denial denial. Smug smiles all round because hey we have yet another headset coming. Excuses lined up because weâre not FB or valve and $40 millions goes nowhere. What do people expect weâre just a 7 year old star up with excuses as long as your arm. Are products are perfect itâs just people are too stupid to set them up right and buy Inferior products.
If this is the case for Pimax in 2021-2022 then there is literally no hope. Money will run out. Competition will get stronger because the only way to go is wider
Pimax in the stand-alone arena has no chance.
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Iâve had NONE of the issues described here. And customer service has been eexcellent for me as well. I must have the perfect shaped head for the ATX. Thereâs no wobble I donât see any distortion the picture is generally very clear and I find a headset quite comfortable. The audio isnât much good thatâs true, and I think the DMAS should be included with every 8KX purchase. Along with the longer and better cable. I do believe that pimax needs to reduce the number of models offered and focus on the Artisan, the 5k super and the 8kx.
And I do think that for the price, the 8kx is should come with more standard options. Hand controllers and DMASwould be good additions to the base package. Sell enough and the volume will make up for the additional cost tp Pimax.
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And he did so long before he bought Oculus. In fact because he had Brand Recognition he was invited by Sony to try out PSVR project called Morpheus. Of Which he was so impressed he bought Oculus; much to Sonyâs Dismay.
But by how much if you factor in Inflation? And remember they were thinking a measly $200k would get them there. They were wrong.
Unfortunately pimax still suffers in the West for the same reasons of AntVR, Deepoon, 3glasses(one of the first companies to have listed MS support).
None of these companies have the recognition like Nintendo. That even includes Xiaomi, Oneplus and Huawei; with these 3 starting to get brand recognition against other flagship companies. AntVR had a good run 2 headsets and a KS for AR Glasses. There headsets were quite decent and now there gone.
They will never have SteamVR base stations like others until Valve says someone else cam manufacture them.
As for controllers in the 7 years they have been around? They did have controllers with the P1 Pimax Pro limited region release(looks might have been possibly licensed off of 3glasses Burbur s1 - the MS sponsored failed headset prior to WMR).
So yes they are behind with having SteamVR controllers.
Yet they still have no price friendly competition on the Horizon as of yet. With FB still teasing there half dome now with reduced FoV and no launch date in sight.
Yes pimax needs to complete things and get there ___ straight. Of which so far it looks like 2021 and 2022 are still open for improvement with the competition focused on toilet paper rolls.
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I think newcomer is an incorrect term more like unknown/unproven.
alot of people hear Pimax and eith say âwho?â or âthat looks sketchyâ
As for @mirage335 comments aboveâŚI partially agree and disagree. Pc VR headsets in general require a bit more knowledge (a bit more than it takes to be a pancake pc gamer) . Pimax headsets require essentially living on these forums and putting up with alot of things that you quite frankly wouldnât expect to have to deal with.
Having usb-c ports that arent fully usb-c, being the only consumer headset without proximity detectors, housings that crack for no reason, no bluetooth connection to basestations, clunky pitool software⌠These are not things you should have to deal with or can deal with in some cases.
All of the criticisms Matteo311 pointed out I have had and will pop up sporadically. The issue with the controllers being out of alignment can happen alot especially if you are constantly switching between different brands of headset like he was doing.
Where I DO agree with @mirage335 is that some reviewers go into their reviews with the expectation that the Pimax is going to be a walk in the park and it will be perfect right away.
Some of these issues can be resolved with a minor amount of fidgeting.
But the amount of fidgeting required can and should be made less with each update and should be a financial priority for Pimax .
Pimax Experience is the best thing that could happen to Pimax in this regard and I find it funny that it is not an area that Pimax has seen fit to allocate funds to. Its basically a goodwill project started by sweviver and now worked on by armin .
Anyway after watching Matteoâs review I was expecting it to be alot worse especially the way it started. But it was pretty accurate. If you desire FOV crisp visuals above all else , are willing to pay for it despite the Caveats(and there are many) and are very patient. This headset may be for you.
Otherwise you may want to look elsewhere.
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Pardon me for being pedantic, however, the problem is not the reviewerâs expectations, but the low-effort. Much of the journalism community seems not to want to be bothered to understand or explain how things can work, but only how people are not getting some or other entitlement, which actually does NOT encourage the other aspects that CAN be worked out. Result is the general public expecting to get even more for putting in even less, which creeps up to the next generation of reviewers.
Not just this reviewer, but also Heliosurge et al whining so much about a few hundred dollars pricing changes and occasional product failures. Seriously, just get more headsets into the field, and let the problems and pricing subside quicker.
In the end, we have society making a rapid race towards the bottom, which the futurists on this forum especially need to recognize, is dangerous.
This is so trueâŚthey should be putting as much horsepower as possible behind this to make sure it is completed quickly and works to the greatest extent possible. This is especially true for the upcoming IPD Guide because that could potentially address one of the biggest complaints against their headsets. No way should PE development still be viewed as a âhobbyâ project.
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Because the reviews generally target the masses not tech heads. If you want in depth make it work reviews you go with people like Skarred Ghost and Gamernexus.
Not sure why you chose to draw me into this when your always whining SteamVR doesnât meet your wants and think everyone should jump to supporting virtually unknown community supported projects. That do not have any big Developers supporting it.
You should maybe stop whining about gpus and not buy consumer cards when there are more expensive ones available that may do what you want with work.
The Public is mostly average pc users not tweakers whom edit configs outside of a gui in program interface.
Just about anything can be made to work if you invest enough time and money to make it so.
Many do want to buy something run setup and play. No there not all game console drones.
Pimax Experience is what pimax needs to be more mainstream and it is ashame they really are not giving it the attention and finances needed. @SweViver and @arminelec are the ones saving pimax for not just the average joe.
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Exactly what is needed to really put pimax on the map with sustainability and of course fixing CS experience issues.
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I was shocked to hear that Pimax the company are getting Pimax Experience the application for free. What the absolute f***.
Promoting it hard, as though it will fix many problems (it very well might), while not paying the people who are making it. Shameful.
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Yeah pimax experience is really the best thing that happened to pimax. Itâs just bizarre that itâs just a hobby project. Pimax canât get their priorities straight
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Pimax Experience has been the dream since the early days of Piplay.
Pimax Experience + Great CS Exp = platinum.
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Itâs shocking. I doubt Pimax would pay their travel cost for turning up at HQ.
Join today many work from Home since Covid. So Zoom will get you to those work meetings and there are even a couple of VR programs as well. Iirc Engage is one.
Well, letâs stick to the facts, itâs a leisure project of the two guys, but it wasnât for nothing.
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It should never have needed to be a leisure project. Even if the Opensource Pitool project had properly materialized it would have helped boosted this interface along with others trailored for specific purposes ie VR Arcade Kiosk.
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Not true. OpenHMD/OpenXR has plugins for things like Unity engine. I could be using my Pimax Vision 8kX on Linux right now, creating an awesome Virtual Desktop app. Hey, we could even get Pimax Experience for Linux with OpenHMD behind it. That would be cool!
Not possible. I considered Titan cards, actually, and there was no way that was going to work. What I can do - and I am - is developing software that actually properly supports multi-GPU.
Your problem is you think lower pricing and some supposedly nonexistent support for bottom-of-the-barrel consumers is the answer, instead of more hardware, more software, and open source drivers.
LMAO weâre discussing a VR entertainment product that we are paying for. Not the future of society. Iâm not paying to help guide our future to a better tomorrow, Iâm just paying for some fun.
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Speak for yourself.
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It is true. OpenHmd is still years behind and hopefully like itâs predecessors it doesnât fade. Ossvr also had support for adding new headsets.
We could already use a pimax headset in Linux aa there is already support for SteamVR headsets in Linux Steam. The Linux Kernel already has support for minimally Vive. The p1 series pimax headsets already has numerous different support in Linux just not with Pimaxâs own drivers.
As for engines? Sure both Unity and Unreal have direct support for linux as well as some other game engines.
All pimax needs is to port there driver or see if it can be made compatible through wine as you can direct access things like amd gpus.
Non existent bottom of the barrel consumers? All I can say us wow. Better let pimax know the Artisan is a waste of time and contact FB as no one must be purchasing Quests. 
Hurry you can save Sony a fortune with abandoning PSVR2.
We need properly optimized software not encourage everyone to create gpu server farms.
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