If Pimax is leaning toward 1440p It seems Deepoon is better in every possible way. Just the software alone is better straight out of the box. No drift problem with latest firmware according to VTS. Ergonomics look superb. Im all for 4K VR but here right now in 2017 were stuck with these options
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Yes, i think pimax BE has no chance in compare DPVR E3.
Im really interested if the visual quality is better than the Oculus? Pimax is a small start up company but Deepoon has far more experience in VR. The Software looks verry good!
Question… Does the head strap work well with headphones?
I just bought a pair of Senheiser HD 650 over ear headphones and Creative ZXR sound card. The sound quality is amazing!. Would they fit over the E3 head strap?
Thanks for your help
I have the 102. I can see screen door, but I also have a Note 4 which I used in a Gear VR, and the screen door is much less. If the 102 has the same oled screen resolution as my Note 4 wouldn’t they look the same? I also have yet to see the ghosting I’ve read about here. shrug. I’m considering taking mine apart soon to see if I can put a focal length hack in as Luke did. If I do perhaps I can get a closer look at the screen and compare. As long as I can turn it on and not screw anything up while I have it open.
I also wonder if it may be a different screen with the 2k label if only because it can only be driven at 2k, as the HDMI specification may have been considered in the part label.
Which gear vr version you use? I compare dpvr e3 and samsung s6 with sm-r322 and sde is same.
And you see screen edge in 102?
I have the 2017 version that came with the controller. I don’t see the screen edge in the 102. My phone battery croaked, I’m recharging it. I’m going to take a conscientious look when I can to see if I see a subjective difference in SDE, etc.
Right now everyone is excited about a part name, right?
E3 is close to CV1. 10% less pixel size and more brightness. But also has godrays. And E3 has chromatic aberration on edge of lenses. SDE still noticeable.
What causes godrays? Poor lenses?
I think godrays are caused by light catching on the ridges of a fresnel lens.
I took a little time to compare a Gear VR with a Note 4 with the Pimax 4k. I had to have readerrs in the Pimax in order to see pixels, I alway use readers in it because the focus is so bad. In the GVR I just use their focal dial.
So just staring at pixels it’s difficult to know if I’m actually measuring right. I eventualy settle down on a photo with some white text on it I brought up from the web on both devices and tried with the time I had to get them to appear to be the same size.
The Pimax does appear to have smaller pixels, but not by much. Well, it could be as much as 75% the size of the GVR Note 4. I guess that would be in line with a UHD over a QHD screen. Dunno, I could be blind.
The GVR Note 4 screen is brighter, but colors don’t seem to match. More range in the Note 4?
The SDE is more noticeable in the GVR Note 4. Also, the pixels in the Pimax seem more rectangular, stacked like bricks, where in the GVR Note 4 they appear more square, and they create the effect of 45 degree diagonal lines. Even if I am blind and they are the same resolution the SDE is enhanced on the GVR Note 4 because of the diagonal lines. There may be less spacing between pixels on the Pimax as well.
I would take the Note 4 for brightness, maybe color, but nothing else. I have not noticed ghosting in my Pimax at all yet, I keep wondering what people are talking about. I use flight sims and I ike low and slow flight over photoscenery. (Get FSEarthTiles and you can fly anywhere in the Pimax, it’s breathtaking) It’s not as bright as I would like, but with the latest 1.2.85 it seems brighter IMHO.
I sought out the Pimax because I couldn’t get the framerates I wanted using a Gear VR even over USB with riftcat. And I wanted a screen that could show readable gauges, as they are in the GearVR Note 4. (FYI, the latest 2017 Gear VR fits the note 4) For what I paid for Pimax and NOLO, hopefully on the way soon, I could have had an oculus rift with controllers, but I really did not want it because resolution has always been very important to me. Plus I’ll get to do Vive programs a little easier.
There are always tradeoffs people. I just hope that Pimax understands that those tradeoffs are to be in the clear made by the purchasers ONLY. To advertise one thing and put out another is called a bait and switch and is taboo in some markets, instant brand destruction, it’s entirely unforgivable. But from what I can tell I have no reason to think it is not a 4k screen. Like I said, maybe labeled 02 for a different reason.
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if you add power to headset when disassembled it might treggerd anti take apart function. at least mine did. at least check that every connector is in its place when turning on when disassembled.
if you trgger anti take apart you need to flash modded fw founded from this forum it 100 version fw but it resets anti takeapart.
then you can flash 102 specific fw and headset start to work again. (to point when anti takeapart triggered next time)
It seems my wife and her honeydo list might not allow me to get to that step any time soon.
Using an secondary PC with all connectors reconnected also helped on my side.
In short:
If the anti-disassemble triggers, reconnect everything and swap PC’s if possible, this worked on my side 100% of the time.
Dunno if the firmware had anything to do with it but it was 1.0.0.248.
Denali - Thanks so much for your detailed comparison.
So do you find flightsims are worthwhile experience in the Pimax - did it meet your expectations?
Also what flightsims are you using?
I’m pretty sure it’s a 2k screen mate. It says so in the FW. Also Pimax keeps dead silence, which tells us enough too. And if Samsung had a 4k OLED 5.67" panel up for sale, we’d surely know about it.
Yeah, I get what you are saying. Lots of circumstantial evidence there. Don’t they know the early adapters in gaming are going to rip things apart and examine every little aspect eventually? It’s almost very insulting.
But other than the lens issue, i am very happy with how it performs in Prepar3d, http://www.prepar3d.com I use custom landscapes, photosscenery that I make with a program called FSEarthTiles. You need to have a better terrain mesh underneath the scenery, and a good weather generator, like ASCA and AS16 makes what you see in flight out the window seem very real. I can honestly still recommend a Pimax for Prepar3d.
Gonna have to agree with this sentiment, Why? Because we have seen Pimax Support answer other questions but conveniently bypass this one.
Also, the fact that people with these units have described more SDE but no ghosting and better colors.
Well, these are the hallmark signs that it’s an 2K OLED.
Really would like to be wrong on this but it’s up to Pimax to clarify the discrepancies…
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It seems like everything went quiet at the party here all the sudden, but I’m kinda like Clarke’s aunt at the end of this clip with my Pimax. Chevy Chase National Lampoon's Vacation sandwich clip - YouTube
I don’t know how to put the video up here.
Hi, it is weird, seems you got a business edition.
We do produce Pimax business edition with OLED display and it is more expensive than the consumer edition.
We normally do not sell the business version to consumers. it should be a logistic issue with one of our distributors, we are investigating on this.
If you would like to buy Pimax business edition, please contact sales@pimaxvr.com
For any other support, please contact support@pimaxvr.com
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xunshu, how would one differentiate between Pimax be and Pimax 4k?
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Good question. Judging by the firmware serial 102 would be the BE. 2.5k oled screen. Also why it requires different firmware.
@deletedpimaxrep1 since the forum is shared with both models. Should create a seperate category or adjust Category title to PiMax 4k & BE
If modifying category title will need to post an intro message explaining differences.
I would also recommend in PiPlay to have it display BE model hmd. On Connected screen.
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