Atm no real internet after move yet unfortunately & still unpacking/settling in.
Was it already running on the 168 or you just updated your HDM?
If so you should restart your PC and check if there is any difference regarding distortion.
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Nope 176 doesnt push automatically for some reason, but it was posted by @anon74848233 few days ago.
Just download the firmware here:
http://piplay-us.pimaxvr.com/P2.1.255.176.dfu
Its really easy to upgrade/downgrade firmware now.
Have your Pimax running and active, open up DFU.exe located where PiService.exe and all oher files are, browse to the firmware file and click “download”.
It takes a few seconds and will restart all services afterwards. Sometimes it screws up the lighthouse tracking after restarting services when update is done. In that case, just reboot your PC
Btw for some reason both my hmds were at 143 (or 146?) before i manually upgraded…
And yes its same fw for both 5K+ and 8K.
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I think people need to have a think about this whole go and see an optometrist to measure your ipd.
If having the correct ipd set gives a better subjective experience and having an incorrect ipd set gives a worse subjective experience, then your subjective experience is all you need to set it. If you cannot set it correctly by subjective experience then it has no noticeable difference on your subjective experience, and an objective number doesn’t change that.
Optometrist: ‘So you want me to improve your subjective experience by giving you an objective number? Hahahahaha. Your problem is the psychology of being a human, not the distance between your eyes.
Now let’s correct your myopia, which lens looks clearer…this one or this one…’
Even optometrists measure your subjective experience when matching lenses to correct your vision.
Humans are funny.
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As @noro explained can be good as faces are not asymmetrical. For me I seem to have good fortune but some may have greater sensitivity to ipd. Bur fitting heatset on both X & Y axis on your face makes a difference.
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Done , many thanks for help Marcin !
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It might be correlated with astigmatism ( I’m using glasses with correction inside hmd) testing
I think you’ll find faces are asymmetrical (typo?).
What you say doesn’t address what I’m saying.
If it changes your subjective experience, your subjective experience will change. If your subjective experience doesn’t change, an objective number is a placebo.
I think it’s only in rare circumstances of uncovering a mechanism of illusion that giving someone an objective number changes their subjective experience.
I think their point is that it would give a better objective experience not subjective.
Can you define what you mean by a better objective experience in the absence of a better subjective experience?
For instance there is that app to check the FOV of the headset, I don’t remember how it’s called.
It’s objective, we could have an app like that to tell us where the distortion starts.
There is distortion or there isn’t, nothing subjective here, subjective part would be whether one is annoyed by it or not.
If someone get a better FOV after adjusting his IPD, this is not subjective but objective.
Better in the sense that he could for instance read text further away to the left or the right.
I think the key word is experience.
If your subjective experience does not change your experience does not change.
If setting a correct ipd improves your subjective experience, then all you need is your subjective experience. If your subjective experience cannot determine the correct ipd then the correct ipd does not improve your subjective experience.
FOV is a quantifiable measurement with no subjective existence. It impacts the experience as you say, but has no subjective existence.
Someone outside of us cannot tell us our experience has improved, yet in many areas of life many people keep looking for exactly this.
The optometrists way of matching lenses to you is asking does this lens look better or this one? And so on until your subjective experience is optimal and any change either direction makes it worse. Their way of matching your ipd would be put the hmd on, does this ipd look better or this one…until it’s your optimal experience and stepping in either direction gets worse.
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Incorrect IPD gives incorrect world scale by default and there is no way around it. Sure, you can have sharpest and subjectively best quality image at say -3 mm from your real IPD but you will also have ~20% smaller world scale. This might not be a problem for most people but I have serious issues with incorrect world scaling, like everything just feels plain wrong. I also get exacerbated motion sickness, cross-eyed vision and more noticeable distortions with incorrect IPD.
I dont see any distortion even in large fov, I do however see the world move when you turn your head. Maybe this is what you mean?
In other words you can see an improvement in your experience as you approach the correct ipd and a deterioration in the experience as you move away from the correct ipd.
So a number given to you by an optometrist would not be of benefit to you.
If you can see the difference then you don’t need the number. If you can’t see the difference then the number won’t suddenly make you see the difference. So either way the number doesn’t help your subjective experience.
so you probably see geometry distortions thats why some object or word move for you when turning head
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Not really I found out that’s very distracting in IL 2 sturmovik during dogfights with players. In this game I have look around all the time watching my 6 and when I spot enemy during my head movement I can’t recognize corectly plane becouse geometry of this plane is changing all the time. So I dont know if this is enemy or my team mate. I’m trying not thinking about this issue during casual game but its just not possible to ignore it during fast combat.Plus all word out of the cockpit is bending/shrinking. This issue with combination of washed out colors&backlighting breaking my immersion , at least in IL2.
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Any improvements in this firmware?
For me I put that ipd as loooow as it will go even though my ipd is 65ish, those inner distortions are just about gone for me. I mean, I recognize the things people are talking about, but for me when it’s all the way down I only really sense any distortion on the outer left and right.
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That’s true now but when i just got into VR i was oblivious of what IPD actually does. I thought it was used for setting sharpness so i set it -6 mm from my real IPD because it looked best that way at that time. It took me more than a week to realize why am i racing toy cars in Assetto Corsa, why my body couldn’t possibly physically fit into car frame, why it feels like i’m crouched when standing and looking at floor and similar weird stuff that made me almost give up on VR. If i knew what IPD setting does back then it would spare me of some unpleasant experiences. I also sleep better now that i have IPD confirmed by professional. 
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