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So the Plexus Plastic Cleaner arrived today in an Amazon package with no external warning labels attached to the package. I open it and there is a lot of empty space, The can is not secured. The lid was removed and I could see a black substance on the spray nozzle. Also thereās a small crack on the lid. Clearly the package wasnāt handled very well. Either that or someone accidentally sprayed it and they had to repackage it.
Either way, I donāt feel safe using it. I didnāt feel safe even before it was going to be delivered after learning more about itās toxicity. So I will likely dispose of it. I have an order for Nanofixit VR glasses protector instead which Iām waiting for.
Also Amazon issued a refund after I explained what happened. They donāt accept returns of flammable material.
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Wow. My package arrived in flawless condition. You might try ordering again.
If you take the can outside and hose it off, it should be safe. You probably took more of a risk already just handling it first.
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FYI, beware of Nanofixit. I ordered a package back in Oct ā¦ it never shipped and they did not answer numerous requests for a status update. I opened a dispute with PayPal and received a refund through them.
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Iām still waiting. I havenāt contacted them, but I really should.
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Yeah, Iām waiting too. Starting to think I should file a dispute as well. Ordered 5 days ago and even paid for fast shipping.
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Time to test the alternative products then I thinkā¦
Finally used Plexus on my PRODUCTION Pimax Vision 8kX lenses, which already had the Nanofixit coating applied. Worked exactly as desired, significantly improved blur and chromatic aberration back to what it had probably been before doing any (albeit brief) roomscale in that headset.
So, Plexus just works, and works well.
That said, be careful with the stuff. I discovered another problem - it can get on the foam. Best to be prepared to let that dry for an hour or so at least.
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Thatās why you shouldāve removed the face foam before applying the spray on the lenses. But anyways I already got rid of the can. My health is more important to me than lens clarity.
By the way, DONāT ORDER DIRECTLY FROM NANOFIXIT. They ignore my email too. Iāve opened a Paypal Dispute.
@mrcabbage Should I immediately escalate the claim to PayPal or wait for Nanofixit to respond?
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Maybe. I might remove the cowling for this in the future. I am very concerned about messing up this particular foam though.
Indeed, your choice. To me, hopefully using a small amount of chemical with some basic precautions, reduces the health risks of eye strain.
Use some masking or scotch tape or 10 or so āpost-itsā on the foam to protect it while you spray?
Or perhaps a ācoverā that you can take back off and wash? -the link is just for example, I think one made for the Samsung might be a better choice.
I wear glasses and I use these watch lens protectors. The one thing that concerns me about either solution for people who wear glasses is that I frequently find that the lens on my glasses are pressing quite hard against the headset lenses. On my original Vive, I found that I actually scratched both my glasses AND my Vive lenses. Went to inserts on that one.
But if I cover the headset lenses with āglassā, Iām pretty sure that I will scratch my glasses. If I cover them with the chemicals in the Plexus product, I would expect to scratch the headset lenses due to the thinness of the coating. Possibly my glasses as well.
I mention glasses because neal_white_iii mentioned a visitor having glasses.
edit: Note that Iām using a 5k+ and I have no idea what effect those protectors have on āclarityā.
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I have one of those, good idea.
I am not really eager to apply another layer of plastic to the lenses though.
Without any evidence or testing one way or the other, I tend to agree. I would think that the extra layer of plastic would have an impact on the image.
How much, I couldnāt tell you. My eyes are bad enough that I āsettleā for being able to see, ādegrees of clarityā are reserved for others. If I could see better, Iād probably be as picky as everyone else as Iām a āgraphics whoreā. Unfortunately, I wear āgraduated bifocalsā and, compared to that, the sweet spot in any these headsets is huge! I need to get another set of glasses for VR. I was waiting for inserts but it doesnāt look like thatās going to happen.
If any of you have some extra money lying around and feel like doing some testing, I would imagine that others could use some information on just how much impact these lens protectors have on the image quality. I do consider them a necessity for all glasses users, if they want to keep the scratches away.
Note: these actually do āhealā small scratches like they were never there. Iāve been quite impressed with them.
Having been around optics and telescopes (astrophotography) for many years (www.imagingdeepsky.com) Multi coated optics are a real thing. In fact, the special filters I use have very special coating to get the slice of spectra just right. These Fresnel lens do improve with the thin coatings of glass like this ā Amazon.com: Liquid Glass Lens Protector Scratch Resistant Coating for All Camera Lenses Smartphone Cameras Eyeglasses and Sunglasses - Universal
I have coated two 5k+ and my 8KX with this and it works great. It also looks like it is the same formula as the other coatings that company makes. One kit coated several other things after I coated the Pimax lenses. There is some hardness factors that I am not sure Plexus provides (I have that also) that the silica dioxide (Si02) based products provide.
I wear glasses and have two 3D printers and printed some inserts with lens but I found a pair of Zenni optical large lens glasses with AR coatings and added an adjustable head strap to keep the glasses tight against my face. That way I can see when I remove the headset and they are more comfortable as the printed part touches my nose.
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I agree, you do not want to change the focal length or the shape of the lenses - I agree the very thin coatings are the way to go.
was this on their website? cause i to had issues ordering them on their website.
So i had to find another source that sells them and been notified its been posted. At least that source was working enough to ship the item.
Unsure why the main website itself just not responding to my messages or sending the items up.
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Hey thanks, added that product to my list, if needed (or I can spare the cash), that will be the next thing I try!
About the plastic lens covers, another concern I have is that these things may be less than adequately polished themselves, between the adhesive, their plastic surfaces, and any residue that might be left after. So, indeed, I am not at all eager to go that route.
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Yes, light is effected by each layer it passes through so it is wise to be very careful with coatings or other surface applications. Reflections or light scatter can also be a hard thing to track down. The glass coatings seem to help fill the poorly polished surface of a plastic lens. My telescope mirror optics took an specialized optician 6 months to finish to an accuracy of 1/30 of a light wave. Then a few molecules thick of reflective coatings are applied in a vacuum!!
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Would you mind posting some links? Zenni sells a lot of frames but Iām not seeing anything that stands out for this use case.
Is the āAR coatingā on the glasses lenses that you refer to the 'Liquid Glass" that you link? Iām wondering if adding the coating to both the headset lenses AND the glasses lenses might be the way to go or would that add a detrimental thickness?
Edit: I canāt get lenses without that extra āglareā coating: how would this effect a liquid glass coating on my glasses lenses.
That was basically the idea that I was going to go with, but from my local Walmart. But Iām not going to be able to attach any kind of adjustable strap to any frames that I get from them, Iām thinking.
I assume that youāre using the adjustable head strap to wear the glasses like old fashioned aviator goggles: do you have any issues with your eyelashes against the lenses, since theyāre so close?
Side question. You know those microfiber clothes that we use to clean the lenses? Does anyone know whatās the best way wash them? Can I just stick them in the wash with my other laundry or will the cleaning chemicals add something to the cloth that I donāt want? What about the fabric softener sheets in the dryer(Bounce)? Thanks!
After a series of hurdles, I should finally be getting my 8kX Monday: this will be the first time, imho, that Iāve had a headset where the loss of image quality due to the lens protectors would actually matter! Going to have to install the protectors until I get things set up tho, I really donāt want scratches on this one!
Depends on the chemicals in question, but at least with some liquid gel soaps, yes, that works.
Another way to deal with cleaning this stuff is just to soak it in hot water in a sink, gently squeezing out under water.
And if that is not gentle enough, grab a roll of paper towels, and alternate between wet and dry. That is a good approach for very gently getting grime out of the foam used on the headset itself.
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