Can someone explain brainwarp to me?

The very fact that the headsets are compatible with the vive light houses is because they’re going out the vive customers and upgraders .

Around $1000 has been the projected price since it showed up on gearbest.

The 8k should be the more expansive as folks won’t want to pay less for less.

Remember the 8k is using special customised panels & as the videos from ifa have said the 8k looks better thsn the 5k model as it should.

Remember vive only recently did a price drop after being pressured by oculus sales & was prior selling for 700 - 800. What will be interesting is what lgsteamvr release price is going to be as it is the next upgraded vive or rather steam sponsored headset.

& consider what does a cheap 4k tv cost these days. (we won’t even ponder 4k computer monitor)

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I believe the 5K is the BE addition the pimax itself said they would be selling to pro customers had a more expensive price because of the oled panels and there Limited source! But I could be mistaken.

The 8k showed on gearbest for 500$ already, it just says out of stock. The pimax 4k came out around 350 when vive was selling for 800$
Plus you make all your money on accessories anyway. And as the market has shown, accessible pricing was a major block to adoption. Also, lcd is a magnitude of order cheaper to make than oled. The valve 2.0 sensors are also about half the price as 1.0. Even at 500 they should be making good money, and they also have the ever expanding market curve which means adoption and growing popularity of a hmd that has good resolution will have new to vr users buying the whole package not just the hmd. I don’t think prexisting users will be their primary consumer, that being said as someone who’s already contributed a lot to the proliferation of vr with a metric ton of free advertising and buying products, I’d like to not get railroaded lol.

Then again, we’re talking 4k LCD vs 1440p OLED. No competition at all in 4k LCD, while several companies manufacture 1440p OLED. So I doubt the cost price is lower for the 4k LCD

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The prices were originally on the Kickstarter page but taken down. Early bird 8k 449 hmd, 8k hmd 500. It is indeed true the oled was slightly cheaper than the 8k but not by too much. I guarantee everyone is more interested in the 8k though :slight_smile:

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Awesome! Much lower than gearbest’s original advertised price point.

I hope they can maintain that. However that maybe just early adopters. But wow assuming works & they can include a base station & w controllers in around that. Ppl are likely to consider rift & vive as overpriced nintendo Virtual boy. :heart_eyes:

With base stations and controllers it was 750

Okay that makes sense & a great opportunity for vive users to upgrade the headset.

Okay I just saw it in This road to vr article, the pimax 8k will definitely have 180 ACTUAL frames per second. That’s smooth motion baby!

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Hmmm there’s nothing in that article or on the kickstarter page that confirms that it are actually 180 different frames, each representing an 5.5ms incremented representation of reality.

I’m not getting my hopes up yet on this whole ‘brainwarp’ thing. Pimax doesn’t have a really good track record in the software department unfortunately … And the fact that they don’t seem to care to explain it is also quite suspicious if you ask me.

That is completely wrong and misleading people. By your logic Rift and Vive got two displays and running on 90Hz so they display should be 45Hz than and you nowhere can read they work on 180Hz. 90Hz is 90Hz no matter how much displays you got 1, 2 or 10 they run on 90Hz anc are capable to show 90FPS. If you forcing 180FPS true 90Hz display you will got 90FPS what ever.

Point is this work 180 FPS (90 per eye) is number of native 4K resolution frames GPU need to process for both eye on 90Hz. So in every moment one eye got one picture in 90Hz/FPS and that is 45picture and 45 blank frames on 90Hz per eye. 8K will use same GPU resources as CV1 without ASW/ATW with super sampeling 1.8.

LOL what is misleading exactly ? This is what Pimax states:

They don’t claim it’s 90 hz. They claim your brain perceives it like 180 hz. Which I doubt btw, but it might look better than 90 hz IF they synthesize one eye because then really it kind of IS 180 hz because then it actually displays 180x per second a different frame, just not for both eyes.

Personally I think it’s not going to work as good as Pimax claims though.

No. By ‘my’ logic you can run the Vive and 45 hz and your brain will think it’s 90 hz. Which they pretty much claim themselves too with their ASW technology. But again, I’m sure you’ll notice a difference. I don’t have a Vive though.

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No because rift/vive are running the display simultaneously not sequentially.

Sequentially your brain will think its seeing more frames due to the small delay.

Like intel’s early quadcores were not true quadcore cpus. Just 2 duals sandwiched together. Where Amd had released true quadcores.

Exactly there both using optical trickery to make the brain think its seeing more.

It simply means brainwarp asw etc are not true refresh in the same way technically core2quad was not a true quadcore.

180 game frames divided between the two eyes. The eyes display at different times and each frame is a step of movement creating the sense of more frames. On the limitation of 90hz screens. That’s how I’ve understood it.

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I’m really hoping pimax has their own version of asynchronous SPACE warp.

@deletedpimaxrep1 @deletedpimaxrep1 does pimax use anything like oculus’s asynchronous space warp?

Let’s double check with the team on Mon. Brainwarp is a set of Pimax version VR technologies.

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PLEASE :slight_smile: I would do backflips if pimax had asynchronous spacewarp!