6ghz, I dont know…but if…
(I only had one AMD, only CPU I never clocked also only one ever died for me. Inna Home theater PC, quality HW).
Just changing PSU (to 1000W) to cope with 3090 Strix OC 
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Water loop will connect to an external quick-disconnect fitting. So, no radiator or other heavy equipment on board. And if the connected radiator is inadequate, the system can just throttle to compensate.
Helium, so the whole system can be brought down to approximately -125degC or less without freezing. All the hot components are on the liquid coolant loop - the helium is for ambient low-power stuff only. To eliminate frost and thermal stress. The helium inside is cooled by a tiny programmable fan on a 40mm radiator that can use a separate coolant port, or share the main coolant intake.
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Sure, but as my 9900K isnt stable at anything above 5.0Ghz (even if 5.2 works), I wonder if the higher IPC on 59XX will noticeably increase the single performance in these sims or not, despite running at 4.9 or even 4.8Ghz.
Im sure FS2020 will be kinda “scaled down” for VR and less demanding. Especially since MS wants it to run on the G2. With the current low performance (4K hardly reaching 60fps) the VR support will be a big dissapointment to any G2 owner, which MS of course want to prevent.
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Frankly, hearing that FS2020 is more or less single-core is disheartening. No new sim software should be built with that degree of stupidity.
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It is quite possible as often in reviews of hardware architecture it says you can’t really compare frequencies directly as a means of performance.
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Im not sure but I think the higher IPC in most cases is when using new fancy instructions that DCS might not use?
I think I have seen info about a lot better CPUs earlier but when they finally get out the single fact is clock speed ? ( not really fullfilling the fat bold advertisement when it comes to DCS).
I also have a feeling that this will be about the same for RTX30X0 series. The selling “greatest change since 1997” or something and the performance numbers advertised assumes ray tracing, and if no support the gain is less than advertised…
That said, I have a 3090 strix OC incoming to cope with the 8KX, also incomming.
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Its single core, no doubt. Just watch all the benchmarks online.
Did MS ever claim that FS2020 has been build up from the ground? Maybe its just a FSX engine with fancy improvements and Bing cloud maps?? Which would mean its a 10 year old engine. Im not educated when it comes to this topic so please correct me if Im wrong. Im just speculating… I purchased the Premium Deluxe version on day one but never bothered about trying it even once in pancake mode…
Yep thats my impression as well. Some rumors say the Big Navi will reach boost clocks of 2.3Ghz and beyond. But that doesnt tell much after all…
Wow really? So you are saying the extra 19% (or whatever) IPC on Ryzen 9 needs specific instructions to even be utilized? If thats the case, then its really a bummer 
I wish I have gone with Strix OC instead of MSI X Trio The Strix OC max power and boost is just crazy in comparison! Also, I would probably have got it faster, as it seems MSI is struggling big time with deliveries. My delivery gets delayed by 5-7 days every week now. I suspect I wont see it before December.
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You can just flash a Strix BIOS on Your Gaming X Trio card when it arrives… 
https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-nvidia-rtx-3090-owners-club.1753930/page-94
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My 3090 strix oc arrives to komplett 25/10(ordered 15:02 release day) so quite close now. And my 8KX is arriving within a few days so [höstlovet] will be nice
About the 5950X and IPC: I dont know but I think the history might repeat: Big words but when it comes to real life DCS gaming it might not be the same. I actually think it was the same with the current ryzens, Intel is faster due to the higher clock. I sure hope the 5950X will rock because for DCS we really can not hope that the fix ( Vulkan) comes in the near future.
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Indeed. Which is even worse, because if the YouTube videos are to be remotely believed MSFS was notorious for ridiculous warping around in multiplayer. Every plane going through the runway when landing.
Basic issue is old engines like DCS needs to be abandoned with new engine designed to use modern technology. Multi core cpus have been out a long time now. No need to be stuck on outdated single core programming.
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The problem is that Eagle Dynamics is working in a change to Vulkan, that will support the use of multicores/threads but this wont happen in the near future.
For us that like to play DCS, there really isnt many options but to use hardware that is up to the single core task.
Best solution is to stop buying the DLCs otherwise there isn’t much motivation to get a new engine completed anytime soon.
I think it would be great if Arma would release a VR version. Still maybe not DCS in terms of vehicles but an awesome war sim.
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Stop buying the DLCs? Like, do you have any clue how much work Eagle Dynamics puts into DCS World, or how detailed those aircraft are?
This is not Frontier Developments doing nothing with Elite Dangerous. This is Eagle Dynamics, and they are doing what the community wants. The community, being significantly composed of actual fighter pilots and maintenance crew who already know the real thing inside out and want to fly their favorite aircraft more.
Trying to get the VR community to ‘punish’ Eagle Dynamics for not rearchitecting their engine is just plain stupid, and will not yield anything.
If there is any hope, it is getting them some 8kX units, so Eagle Dynamics knows how much we need those extra performance margins.
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It is not trying to get them to punish them 
If you want multi-core support folks need to stop buying DLCs for out dated engines.
How much money would you wager it would cost to buy all current DLCs? Now multiply that by the number of estimated players whom have done so. And you will find the old game has more than made it’s money.
No different than Star Trek online is free and if you bought all the DLC it is well over $300+.
Continuing to support old dated game engines only keeps these Devs from Developing modern game engines as they have no incentives to update there game engines.
They have had how many years to develop a new engine since Multi Core cpus have been introduced?
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What you do not seem to realize, is that the aircraft in DCS World - are not airliners. The modern fly-by-wire aircraft, with their fancy displays, are incredibly complex, and all of that is emulated by - a ton of scripts and compiled code.
These aircraft are the asset, not the game DCS World itself. And porting those aircraft, the real assets, to another game engine… any feature the new middleware does not implement will wreak subtle havoc.
Realistically there is only one way DCS World aircraft will move to a new game engine. The existing aircraft would have to be used essentially as reference implementations, and new aircraft simulators made from scratch. That is, making a flight simulator, of a flight simulator.
To some extent, this is undoubtedly already happening, as DCS World simulates systems that were correctly emulated by Falcon BMS before.
You try doing that, while the community is demanding whatever aircraft they don’t have yet. The community is also very picky about having every last feature accurately simulated on those aircraft.
Eagle Dynamics can just rewrite relevant portions of their legacy codebase. They will do so when the aircraft the community demands are complete.
Fortunately, a DCS World game engine refresh will probably happen soon now. Eagle Dynamics has been so busy, they have basically implemented most of the modern jets and WWII planes at this point…
About $300, though most players probably spend closer to $150. Guess how I know…
My point stands. Support single core games prepare to be stuck with single core needs.
And if/when they release the new engine and do not require you to rebuy The DLCs rejoice and buy more.
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I thought we were discussing VR & PC hardware here and not DCS addons? 
But yeah… I support DCS, I think they have done an incredible job with their sim and all the addons. These are really on an entirely different level compared to addons for FSX/XP11/P3D. It is just a shame the “upcoming” Vulkan support is being postponed into eternity. Its been promised for 3 years now, I think. Maybe one day…
Either way, I still believe that with a nicely overclocked 3090, and a better CPU than 10900K, plus some magic tweaks made by Matthew @mirage335 we can finally get it running fully smooth on 8KX. The upcoming 60Hz mode on 8KX might also help a lot, even if 60Hz is not optimal, of course.
What we have to remember is that DCS does run smooth with awesome framerates in 4K and pancake mode even on 2080Ti. Meanwhile, FS2020 runs painfully bad in 4K pancake. Every benchmark Ive seen even with RTX 3080 + 10900K reveals framerates of between 25 and 60fps. Thats concerning. If rendering one 4K display is so demanding, how on earth is it gonna work on two VR 4K displays + a mirror desktop view?
Wow is that really possible? I hope you are not kidding. I need that bios!!
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DCS world aircraft are very expensive. I bought the Spit IX and the Christen eagle. I won’t buy anymore.
I also bought sceneries and a campaign for the spit. I’ve literally just nibbled at the edge of the game in terms of add ons, and it’s already cost double Il2, with only 3 usable planes.
And the Spitfire ix’s flight model is disappointing to me. Despite being very twitchy, (far too much so imho) the spit can’t be coaxed into a flick roll. Or at least I can’t get it to do it. It’s detailed, and beautiful, but I don’t like the way it flies at all. Landings are fun though. Maybe it will be better when I get my new video card. I like the Christen Eagle. I flew on in real life briefly, and it was amazing.
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