You mean the Pimax Parmesan, don’t you, Sebastian?
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No your lost in the remote vision of toilet paper rolledness. FOV IS KING remember that mixedrealityTV.
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no cracks have appeared?
no matter how old it is, i gotta say the vives brightness and black levels are untouched.
(so is its screendoor)
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I m actually sending it to one of my iracing league racers. He is young and on limited income. I remember what that was like when I was a younger man so paying forward. And yes …colors great! Screen door not so much. Lol
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Imho the controversial part isn’t so much the objective but the subjective, judgemental part. E.g. you also mentioned distortions in the previous 5k reviews. There it was more something worth noteing, but the tenor of these preview was, that you were quite excited for the headset.
In the 8kX preview it was described as a source of discomfort that doesn’t allow you to enjoy the headset for even midterm periods of time. This essentially reads as “I cannot recommend it and wouldn’t consider to use it”.
If you come to this conclusion then it is right and important to state this exactly like you did it.
Some might still be puzzled why it wasn’t a problem for the 5k+ which you could use as a daily driver for months and now is unacceptable for the 8kX even though you even mention that distortions are slightly better than the 5k+.
But assessments can change, particularly if the candidates for comparison change. Back in the days of the 5k+ there was no Index nor G2.
So in the end the video isn’t “positive” I think, when looking at the weighting of pros and cons and your personal judgement. I cannot imagine that anybody who was on the fence bought an 8kX because of that video. If anybody might still have bought one after watching the video, then I think they did it despite, not because of that video.
But it is really hard. One option would be to leave judgements out of all the videos (which as we saw in the 5k+ vs 8kX case might also change over time for the same person towards the better or - like in this case - worse) and just tell about observations as unweighted as possible.
On the other side many are mainly looking for your judgement as a VR expert authority, willing to just trust you and might not even be interested in all the details.
So I also don’t know.
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The review is one thing: fair.
Edit: if you do not think so, please let me know which part you would see as unfair.
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I just rewatched the final parts and some of the opinion-related conclusions that I still had in mind were indeed not in the conclusion of that video but apparently in the FAQ and other videos afterwards. (Which most people interested in the 8kX and your channel probably also watched)
I think one could still have made a different video that would also have fulfilled all aspects of fairness but would have delivered a much more positive impression to the audience. But I think your choice is acceptable.
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No you are correct, if you watch his CES videos he uses all of the superlatives he uses when talking about the G2. Then post NDAgate complete change in tone about the 8KX. Not sure how that happens when using the exact same headset, but i ordered based on the initial WOW it’s amazing how VR should be BS. Lesson learned on my part, I’ll wait for user reviews in future as they are the only genuine un-biased reviews we can trust. From what i’ve read so far they have been very positive.
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I guess we all get excited by new toys , so a bit of over-enthusiasm when experiencing new tech is inevitable , I want one of these but know that after the initial honeymoon period small niggles will probably emerge and a more balanced reality will become clear .
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This is true but there are multiple videos of him trying it and nothing changed, then the NDA BS and it was a different story. Like i said lesson learned, personally I don’t trust anything coming from MRTV anymore unfortunately.
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Guys, please stop blaming Sebastian for something he hasn’t done. I don’t know about all of his videos, but the review I linked above is a fair one and I mostly agree with it.
Everyone needs to decide whether based on available knowledge they are willing to accept the compromises or not and make a buying decision based on that - not a single review’s tone.
Also, no point in arguing about another review here - please stay on topic and I’ll gladly answer any questions about my experience.
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Yes, just reading opinions from different sources is probably the safest bet, the ultimate reference instance to look for when it comes to VR topics imho doesn’t and cannot exist (sorry, Sebastian 
). Think MRTV is definitely worth watching and supporting, he always proved to add a valuable perspective!
Here some other interesting 8kX impressions from the dev of Serious Sam and Talos Principle: https://www.reddit.com/r/Pimax/comments/i15q5q/backer_1426_8kx_impressions_after_a_day_of_use_by/
It is also critical (and, like Sebastian recommends the Index for most users) but sees also some cases where the 8kX might be a really good idea 
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I can see your point (and partially agree with it, as he also said the 5k+ was brilliant, but mine was… not), but… when you get something new and its better in some way to something else, its ok to be impressed but then reflect on your views and come to a different conclusion, particularly if you were demoed something quickly but then have more time to do an in depth review, so i think people are being a bit harsh
Part of the problem is, some people want all the pimax advertising to be true with no negatives and so are looking with confirmation bias and feel the need to attack every possible negative point, almost kind of ignoring where that person has also been positive
Anything you wear is extremely personal and so basically impossible to be “objective” as it is almost entirely subjective, what people can percieve, comfort etc can only be subjective
2 people can try the same headset and come to entirely different conclusions and half the time not actually be able to give you an accurate reason as to what exactly they prefer
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The distortion and comfort issues were also part of Evertec’s review whom sold his 8kX as he couldn’t use it due to strain. However did give it a good review.
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Yes, all complaints were fully comprehensible, if I were him I would also have sold it (and his impressions were very interesting to read!). People with an IPD outside of the supported physical IPD range might be able play around with the software settings, but it is comprehensible that the results might not be convincing. If one has to look through the wrong part of the lense then there is little software can help.
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I think @mixedrealityTV mix is perfect for me.
Especially because he is doing the reviews in a non german tradition.
Problem in germany is being so objective that it seems subjective if that makes sense to anyone. That‘s by the way the problem how established political parties in germany created some very unwanted parties, simply because of being afraid to state something subjective.
Of course I value a personal subjective opinion from a professional a lot after stating the objective facts. What more do you want?
We‘re all grown ups and can decide for our selves.
I get that people need to cry about someone disliking what they‘ve paid a pretty penny on.
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Tbh I think it is more to do with wide FoV headsets with canting is still pretty new. It is going to take more time and research to get it more perfected to be used by more of the masses.
Think of the early dk1 and dk2 of the rift. While pimax is ready for a large portion of the masses it is not ready for all. In time better optics, software and screens will likely fix many of the current issues some experience.
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Think a single (first) preview and it’s tone can make a lot of difference and people have a strong tendency to follow the trend of opinions - so a coining “trend setter opinion” can be critical.
But you are right, this review was within the boundaries of what could be considered fair, I mixed stuff up, sorry also towards Sebastian.
And sorry towards you for contributing to derailing your thread!
From my current level of knowledge of human nature I’d say, no, many people don’t even want to decide by themselves.
Perhaps you have a point with your last sentence (and I feel myself included here).
Doing “a honest and fair review” of a unit that hundreds have backed for and thousands already preordered can be a source of discontent by definition. When many people watching the video don’t have the choice whether to buy this device or not and just all they have as a choice is to either look forward to the device in anticipation or regret. And another percentage of the audience is getting satisfaction out of hearing good reasons to disregard something they already ruled out (or hate out of passion) for themselves anyways, with some “this must be sooo bad for the people who have backed this, I wouldn’t want to be in their place now”. grin.
I didn’t consider that yet too much, but it might indeed be one of the reasons this still makes me angry, particularly as my own experience differs, so it feels unfair, even though it might not be.
So I personally could have saved me some frustration by not watching the 8kX related MRTV videos, keep the anticipation up and experience the device by myself in the end, seeing that it is a great upgrade from the 5k+ for me. People who wouldn’t have bought it before also likely were just reassured in their nonetheless already taken decision. So the only people remaining where it made a difference might be those where it “saved them” from spending money. Or from having a really good experience, depending on person. Sigh, I don’t know.
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I’m not crying, i’m actually in a really good position once my 8KX arrives 
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Keep Calm! The G2 is only available today for this price! 
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