I don’t recall but possible. I do recall some had trouble with a version that I was able to install and had working with disabling AV. However we both know the piplay p4k days were very early days(2016 p4k released). And we both know those days were a mess. I would be interested in @VRKommando’s assessment as he was a very early suporter. It was ashame to not see him in the KS; however likely moved on to newer things.
I can say I do know quite a few friends whom bought HP products that did not work; tge stores asked no questions when they saw it was HP. Which is very different from my xp of long ago. My old place of work also has tins of issues with there professional series hp printers more than is reasonable.
The gf a couple of years ago she bought a $40 HP printer she couldn’t get working. So she asked her brother for help - no dice. She called HP support line and the fellow was quite rude and wanted her to pay $200 to get a $40 printer to work.
Sure but we know a Ferrari is more of just a fun car and like a Bugatti not practical for much other than having fun. So depending on intended use your example is correct on both sides.
Ah but if you choose to open a thread to read that the title tells one you may not like the content. Your choosing to frustrate yourself. He did mention the Q2 has the same ipd limits and works better. So it’s not like say when Lucky found FB kind of pushed him out with the Rift S having fixed lenses that does not support him; the Founder of his former company.
One might presume that if the Q2 works then the G2 should as well by the specs.
Iirc the Quest featured speakers in the main body similar to Google cardboard without headphones. So in theory the Quest should be worst than SMAS. But yeah a high end pc with a standalone doesn’t make strong sense. But does have strong merits if the wireless streaming works well. As wireless is a big deal in advancing from limitations of cords.
Well said. I mentioned on these forums a few weeks ago that I was tempted to put the SMAS speakers one more go , as it seemed that the sound I was hearing could have been an iffy connection.
I put them back on and I admit. It sounded a bit better than my first experience. Still lacking bass but not as terrible as the last time.
Last time I was listening to music on it and that was probably a mistake because it can’t compete in that level.
This time I was just playing normal games like boneworks and while the bass lacks its good enough for speech and midrange.
I will still be putting my modded amazon headphones back on
For the record both the wife and I have quest 2’s and play games like beat saber and pistol whip regularly and we never felt like the pumping beats are compromised in anyway and is fully enjoyable.
There’s no frustration in honest criticism. The G2 is not perfect, quite a few things can be improved. But when you’re starting to say things about a bug that only happens on certain chipsets and only at certain volume levels, like “even Pimax doesn’t create bugs like that”, I’m really starting to doubt that your intention is to give honest criticism. It starts to sound like you just want to bash the headset. And THAT becomes frustrating to read. That was my whole point here.
But personally I don’t care. I was just saying, I can understand that some others here start to react sour to people who seemingly just want to bash the G2 because they’re a fan of Pimax.
I was about to pull the trigger on a g2, but things stopping me is the tracking and the tracking volume at resting position, as I usually stand with hands on my sides, and that’s a position where g2 loses tracking.
I think I can live with the fov with a mod but tracking is a hard one to take a hit on. Especially coming from index bs tracking.
Just speaking my honest feelings here, I’m never ever a fanboi of any brands.
Its a choice between a free ps5 (when that’s back in stock) or free g2 I have not yet decided on.
Yes I understand your point of view. I think its good to put a pin in this now.
It wasn’t my intention for this to go on so long and take over this thread.
My intent while reviewing was to see if the 8KX was truly on Par with the closest competitor (in resolution) and I only wanted to present my findings of the G2. (Flaws and all) as I didn’t feel some reports of vast superiority could be taken without a grain of salt and had to see for myself.
The result of my findings were the 8KX is on Par and has some considerable advantages in key areas (FOV), and that certain things about the G2 fall short some other things might be considered more of a side step.
My hopes is that it would help anyone who also doesn’t currently have the nightmare optical issues like some have reported here with their 8KX and are unsure to believe reports that the G2 is better in every conceivable way are applicable to them.
Its like if superman showed up and reviewed the G2 and said it had horrible SDE. He’s not lying…he has super vision. It doesn’t help me at all, but I’m sure another superhero with similar vision would find it extremely helpful.
Your findings are as good as my findings, or anyones. However I strongly feel yours are negatively impacted because you’re 2 mm out of the spec-ed IPD range. Doesn’t make yours any less valid but still, it’s an important point people should keep in mind. I would not recommend the G2 to anyone outside the range. In fact, I’m suspecting that even if you have IPD 67-68 your sweetspot might be negatively impacted already.
I do agree that if you’re happy with the 8k-X optics, it might not be worth it to purchase another headset like the G2. You’ll gain in some areas (sound, colors, less SDE, less mura, sharper, better comfort) but you’ll lose in FoV and lighthouse tracking and those are important points. Also the sweetspot seems to be a hit&miss among users. Personally I have, just like MRTV, almost the whole FoV sharp but others seem to experience that very differently.
8kx arrived today.Do I still need to do the steam resolution hack if in using the Pimax Experience beta? Just want to make sure I’m giving it a fair comparison to my g2.
My personal experience with “out-of-range” headsets is not uniform. For example with Index, I knew that I would not be able to wear it in an instant (while my IPD of 72 mm was “only” 2 mm too wide), because of the liquid stray light, god rays and impossibility to find the sweet spot (in a eye box sense).
On the other hand, when I checked Quest 2 recently, which goes even lower (68 mm) I did not have the problems with sweet spots and while I felt the world was a bit “tight” I was able to play few tunes in Beat Saber without any problem. I still won’t get Quest 2, because I expect that the rendering cannot match my eyes and I won’t be able to fix it. Plus having the lenses closer limits the peripheral FOV and the image still feels “suboptimal”. (And nothing to say about the mandatory facebook account).
But the point is, I can imagine, someone, who just goes by “feeling”, may actually consider a headset with smaller IPD fine and adapt to the discrepancies it produces.
Not yet. He did buy one extra of I think amazon spain and that was the exact same unit as he had. I’m expecting him to do a video on his new findings, on the headsets he got from people who complained about small sweet spot, next week.
Fair enough. I can understand that if you’re out of the range, you’d still be interested, cause there’s indeed a chance the headset will still work more or less fine. Yet the G2 seems pretty unforgiving here. Only after I modded mine for wider IPD (and of course also a mod for more FoV) I got a good experience with the headset. Out of the box it was pretty bad for my 69.5 IPD. And like I said, it seems I had to push the lenses further out than I expected, that’s why my theory is that even users with 67-68 IPD on the G2 might need to mod the IPD to get to an optimal experience.
And I really liked this G2 review on the Dutch tech website tweakers.net: HP Reverb G2 VR-headset Review - Tweakers that review just seems very balanced. Instead of the ridiculous review from @VoodooDE they don’t claim weird things like “The FoV IS 78 degrees, because that’s what I measured with ROV tool!!! And it’s like looking through toilet paper rolls!!!” but they say the FoV is dependent on your face shape, which of course is very true. They also don’t say things like “I can’t possibly talk about modding the headset, how can a serious review even suggest that”, like voodoo claimed, but they say “HP hasn’t released different faceplates yet, but users developed printable faceplates that can get your eyes closer to the lenses”. Wow it’s just such a relief to read a review that’s intelligent and makes sense instead of the nonsense that Voodoo blurted out. It’s really the difference between contemplating what kind of information a VR enthusiast would find useful to make an informed buying decision and just writing “This is what I see, deal with it”.
I found the 2 reviews a bit bland but like all reviews honest. I include Voodoode on that.
It still amazes me that the myth that the Index has more FoV still persists. When it is only 1° more than the vive pro on both horizontal and vertical. Gotta love the marketing bling.
RoV’s tool is great but a subjective tool on measuring FoV.
Thanks, you too a happy and healthy 2021. And btw, my comments aren’t directed at your personally, but at your review which I felt was just really bad. Nothing personal. Cheers!
So depending on intended use your example is correct on both sides.
