just got my 8KX and I freaking love it! Please take the time to adjust it properly as my out of the box experience was also negative until I had it better dialled in.
It still has a few minor flaws (as all VR headsets do) but that resolution, lack of SDE, and what feels like improved persistence/blackframe insertion makes for an amazing sense of presence. And all that is with my 1080ti. Imagine when I get an RTX 3080 or 3090!
Indeed. That should take care of much of the configuration stuff, especially deeper stuff like SteamVR. Nonetheless, the design goal of Pimax Experience is probably more to enable at least somewhat technically minded users to get things working optimally, rather than completely eliminate the need for any initiative at all for a few narrow use cases.
Thanks everyone for the useful information…except for @Mikenz666 (what a rude person you sir/mam are I hope you get help soon. There are plenty of good Doctor’s out there who can help you)
@mirage335 yes you are correct I am new to vr, but I do have a rather non budget friendly PC with a RTX Titan so I don’t think that is the problem. I never said that I would put it up for sale. I will wait for the better software mentioned that hopefully fixes the out of box experience.
@Cdaked useful link thank you.
@Teigue totally agree with you. My friend used Virtual Desktop and ShadowTech. Because he loves being Portable and I can now clearly understand why.
It is a shame that I need to tinker to make things better. Because out of the box this a joke and not consumer friendly at all.
The issue here is probably that he believed he would get a premium polished consumer product.
Unfortunately, anybody who has followed Pimax in the past 3 years could have told him that Pimax headsets are nothing like that. However, that doesn’t mean they are generally worthless, overpriced pieces of junk. It means they ask for tinkering, patience, even willingness to sacrifice on a few levels, in order to potentially get an experience which can be better than that of any other consumer headset; possibly though not for all use cases but specific ones benefiting from the high resolution & FoV and not bothered too much by e.g. the lower refresh rate, etc… In any case, the 8KX is a high maintenance headset. And to just get it adjusted properly to get away from a head-ache inducing experience I had to try around for a couple of hours, and still wasn’t there 100% (but already could see the clear advantages over e.g. the Index).
So this ‘let’s have a party and 5 guys try the headset and come to a verdict after 10 minutes of use by each’ approach was a clear recipe for disaster. This is exactly what is going to end in utter disappointment, as it shows here.
The problem is, this isn’t clear to those who don’t follow Pimax more carefully but then read only the marketing material of Pimax or glowing (short) reviews of users not mentioning the effort & knowledge required to make this headset shine.
@Bananenbieger: I have had my share of frustrations to make the 8KX work for me, and it took me quite a while (2-3 weeks because I didn’t have much time to spend on it). But now it clearly has it’s use cases where it offers superior experience, e.g. simulations (e.g. DCS, racing), or Virtual Desktop (not the built-in SteamVR desktop viewer) looks amazing, I can easily & clearly read my icon text on my 4K desktop screen (Windows scaling at 150% because otherwise I would have difficulties reading them when not using my 8KX…).
However, is it a great headset for somebody looking for an easy to use, everyday headset for many apps & games, who doesn’t accept to have to tinker with the settings ? I guess the answer is no. And is it one which you can demonstrate easily to friends who come along ? Oh no, please don’t. At least not until you are well-versed in adjusting it for them so they don’t get this eye-strain experience…
But as you seem to rate the Quest as the best, I assume that you are rather at the convenience side of the spectrum of users rather than the enthusiast side. Which is not meant to be dismissive at all - I count myself to be a convenient user, who only grudgingly puts up with all the effort of the 8KX because I at the same time wanted to see the SDE disappear and resolution go up, e.g. to really enjoy a movie in a headset. I do like my Quest, and sometimes watch sitcoms on Netflix on it, but I would never watch a good movie on it, the SDE just is too bad for me to enjoy anything which would ask for immersion, should be roughly comparable to the vision I would have in a cinema.
Uh-oh. I have that frequently, but somehow thought it was a Lighthouse issue. I will try to monitor it when using my Index, if these issues disappear completely, then it would be an issue of the 8KX indeed !
@PimaxUSA: is this something Pimax are aware of ? Is there a known fix/work-around to improve it ? What exactly triggers the glitches in tracking, i.e. is there anything we can do to avoid these ?
You should have gotten two sized foams in the box but Pimax seems incapable of doing this, these 2 different sizes can provide vastly different experiences for users so I would recommend getting support to send you the other sized foam as it might provide a better experience for you.
Yes I am by all means not enthusiastic. I just wanted the best experience. Plug and Play. It would not be possible to unplug this Plastic and bring it to a friend to test even if they wanted to review it and spread the word. Unlike the Quest it took me 5 minutes to set up and be ready to play. Enough time to build and smoke healthy Herbs
Well, here you are comparing the absolutely most easy to set up VR experience, the Quest, with a semi-professional, tinker-extensive prototype-like PC-bound headset. If you went even a step further, you could spend a couple of thousand Euros to get a StarVR or XTal which would demand even more tinkering (for your games to work properly, not IPD - but, who cares why you have to tinker, it is the time spent which is annoying)
While the 8KX can provide the “best” experience, it’s by no means “plug and play”. Any of the headsets which require base stations (Index, Vive, etc.) are not really plug and play.
Also, “best” is subjective: best FOV? best (least) SDE? best (simplest) setup? best colors? best contrast? best blacks? The headsets which are best in one category aren’t going to be best (and may be the worst) in another category.
Unfortunately, Pimax headsets are currently only suitable for enthusiasts: Someone who is willing to invest time tweaking their headset for an optimum experience. Some DIY mods may be necessary. The canted (angled) screens cause problems for some people, which might not be resolvable. If you’re not willing to invest that time, sell the headset, since you’ll never be happy with it.
However, if you take the time and invest the effort, it’s likely that your 8KX will provide a superior VR experience. (That’s assuming you don’t stick with the stock “above the ears” speakers, which are subpar.)
I be had 8kx.for.a.week and it.has been great! But of course I ve had experience coming from original Vive and 5k+.
I think we can keep things without this kind of talk. Your posts were also out of line as you made presumptions based on your inexperience with setting up the product. You could have asked for help based on the fact of the good experienced reviews as to why you were not having a good experience.
Now as asked before are you a pre order or KS Backer please?
Computers often require tinkering. Why many prefer gaming consoles for a truer plug n play or rather pick up and play experience.
Nobody takes you seriously with a tone like that. You are extremely rude and your language is disgusting. You talk bad about other people and don’t provide any truth that you actually own the device. Can @PimaxQuorra verify this guy? The badmouthing he does almost give criteria to sue the guy.
Kinda strange his profile says he is “Jesus” and his impressions seem considerably outside the range of comments within other reviews as we haven’t seen a review like this from anybody.
He also refers to the 8KX as a “toy” which a common type of comment you regularly see on reddit that can be used against any product you don’t like.
This is strange to say the least. Of course he is fully entitled to his opinion if he has an 8KX.
It’s likely just a common issue of a user expecting a plug and play experience. Computers often require tinkering where as gaming consoles are truly plug & play.
Plug & play is one of the worst kinds of advertising for PCs.
Well said. This is 100% Pimax.
Either this guy @Bananenbieger has a super faulty headset or he’s lying. Not saying which I’m just saying what I feel.
I have my 8KX Plugged in for days and I don’t turn off my computer and it’s definitely not anywhere close to being hot when it’s not turned on.
The headset needs adjusting, took me a few days to get it to where I can put it on and take it off effortlessly.
I’m surprised @Bananenbieger never commented on the heat when it does get turned on. My gripe with the X is longer gaming sessions are cut short because of that.
The God rays are super super minor on the X but I’m comparing it to the king of god rays of the Vive unless he did get a faulty set with godrays.
well to be fair, if you manage to get it into standby rather than turned off it does become warmish on that spot on the top left. not to a point where I consider it a concern but i know that some people has been concerned about it on their headset.
But is sure sounds like he has every issue ever mentioned on any pimax headset doubled up on his.
Mine does get noticeably warm/hot too, so that is an observation I had too. And the glitches in tracking the Index controllers is something I recognize too.
So yes, it definitely is not a perfect headset, and I don’t even know if it will survive the shootout between the Index, G2 and 8KX at the end to earn a stay in my VR setup. But it has its advantages, and for those who value those above certain others, it will be the best headset out there.
There has been plenty of feedback of this nature regarding the 8KX, you just choose to ignore it and pretend it doesn’t exist. Its been happening since the 5K+ first came out and its why you have the exact same complaints about the X and dozens of people selling their X’s as soon as they get them.
Edit; a grown up man who claims to be a board member of an international corporation had responded to my post with a poop emoji. Slow clap