Like the tittle says, I can use the Oculus just fine without my reading glasses as it focuses on infinity, and I have no problem with distance in real life, but the Pimax I can’t focus on the distance and it makes me a bit nauseous unless I use my reading glasses then it looks good and the discomfort goes away.
What’s the difference? Anything I can do to fix it? I really don’t want to wear my glasses every time I put on the headset.
Hi, have you adjusted IPD (Interpupillary Distance) in PiPlay setting?
Pimax 4K headset may adjust IPD for persons with myopia (shortsightedness) that less than 300 degree automatically, persons with other eyesight situation should wear glasses to obtain better experience.
Thanks, yes I adjusted the IPD. Also IPD does not match real life. I looked at IPD from my prescription for the reading glasses and it shows 67, but I need 60 to get the Pimax clear.
Using the reading glasses with no other change worked great. But I don’t use the glasses on the Oculus and have no problems with it and focus. Is it just the way you designed your lenses? Are other lenses available?
Thanks
Randyre,
By chance are you far sighted?
If so then that would be why you find the improvement with reading glasses.
The pimax 4k was developed with myopia & 20/20 vision a few users like @LukeB & @Starraker also are far sighted & have used reading glasses to create mods
Yes. But its funny that this is the only HMD I’ve heard of that Far Sighted is an issue since most focus on infinity. If the 8K is the same, geared toward Myopic and 20/20 it may be a deal breaker for me. Bad enough to break out the glasses to read a book or magazine, but to use my computer as well, no thanks.
Since anything at arms length is fine, I don’t need it for my computer monitor. At least not yet 
I hear you. This was an error based on their initial demographic. Chinese folks usually trend towards myopia.
The 8k won’t have that design issue.
That makes sense. That being the case and with how easy it is to install new lenses, it would be nice if there was an option to buy and replace the standard 4K lenses. I’d pay for that. 
I posted the lens focus question about the upcoming product on the 8K forum, and got an official answer that it would follow the HTC and Oculus style of lens focus.
http://community.openmr.ai/t/far-sighted-myopic-and-20-20-whats-the-plan-for-the-8k/2790/2
Pimax just don’t seem to get it.
What is the point of all the new resolution if it can’t be properly focused.
I have not seen or read anything relating to a proper focusing mechanism in the new Pimax products.
I think what they need is to get someone to do a review that is over 45 and does not have perfect vision any more.
As I have stated many times. I will not be buying another VR headset that does not have any way to adjust focus.
Pimax. How about a comment on this issue. You always seem very quiet when it comes to discussions around image focus.
Pimax 4K its NOT for 20/20 vision people. I have ideal vision in real life but my eyes dont like Pimax 4k. I just not properly focusing in far objects. My eye is tired.
Pimax 4k has only 40-50 cm focus ajust.
Oculus and vive just have right focus adjust. Normal people not have glasses and dont need glasses with HMD. People with myopia have glasses and also will use it with HMD. Focus adjust for PC HMD its bad, big problem with dust on screen.
I haven’t seen an Oculus or Vive unit in real life.
Do they have focus adjustment?
That is one of the problems with companies made up of only young people.
They don’t really have much of an idea of real world issues and operate in their own bubble.
Pimax4K is a perfect example of this. Great technology but shows a very poor understanding of how to create a product for the world market.
I’m sure they will be very successful in selling their Pimax units to people with Myopia.
Pimax4K is like a pair of binoculars with a fixed focus. Good for some but useless for most.
VR units are expensive. Not just the unit, but also the computer able to use it. So any issue that prevents the VR unit from performing at it’s best makes it too expensive to consider.
Being able to get perfect focus is the most critical function of the optics comprising the unit. If it cannot do this then it is a failed product and will be no more than a curiosity for people who have lots of money to throw away.
I want to buy a Pimax 8K, but I won’t throw away money on something that produces poor unfocused images.
I’m happy to wait for a company to release one that meets my standards.
Luke take a look at the 8k acessories there appears to be lens adapters.
Contrary to vts post it is for 20/20 & myopia as i still have 20/20ish vision. His eye getting tired is likely due to his physical ipd being outside the sweet spot of the lens center. @Sjef was discussing this issue of cross eye feeling; users with small ipd are likely to experience bug eye feeling.
One user in that discussion used metal frame glasses to create an ipd adapter of sorts.
The core issue is need demo spots where folks csn try before buying. I have a place nearby here that will likely have an interest in the 8k model as they charge $25 canadian per hour for the vive experience.
I went to the dollar store today and bought a cheap pair of reading glasses and also found a plastic cup a bit smaller than needed, cut it up and glued the glasses invereted to it. Slips right over the Pimax lenses and stays put without any modification to the HMS.
All I can say is WOW!! Works great. and talk about clear, focus is as good as the Rift is and with the Pimax resolution.
Yes, I’ll be hoping that some retail outlet may take on the Pimax 8K so that I can try it out first. But I doubt that that will happen as apart from the low cost Google Cardboard units, I have to date only seen Oculus and Vive sold here.
Although using extra lenses on top of the Pimax 4K lenses worked ok, it did not remove the need to wear my own glasses and so there were three lenses between my eyes and the LCD.
This produced a focused image, but a less than comfprtable experience and as far as I am concerned, this is not going to be acceptable for the Pimax8K.
This is now a second generation Pimax unit and if they haven’t learned a lesson regarding the need for proper focusing by now, then they never will and so do not deserve to have me as a customer.
As much as I want to remain with PimaxVR, I am happy to wait for the right unit that will meet my needs and specifications.
I have been a product designer for over 30 years and I am totally over being beguiled by gee wiz technology and companies that promise everything and never deliver what they have promised.
I will not spend the many hundreds of dollars for a VR unit that will not give me a well focused image.
VR is all about the quality of the image and NOT about having the highest resolution unfocused image around.
This may have worked fine with Pimax 4K but there is no guaranty that you will be able to do this with the 8K.
I was able to take my unit apart and make a mod to allow me to get a good focus, but I doubt that this will be possible with the new 8K design and the higher cost also makes this undesirable.
Pimax4K was a great learning experience in VR for me and what it taught me is not trust hype from the manufacturers.
Just look at all the crap VR units available at the moment. I’m almost sure that we will soon be seeing them in land fill dumps.
I agree but lets just do this.
@PimaxVR @deletedpimaxrep1. Can you confirm manual focus & in one of your posts it looks like some kind of lens adapters.
I absolutely agree, I made the adapter so I could use the 4K and see what all the fuss was about and to see if I might want the 8K, which looks like I will, but again only if the unit has the same infinity focus that Vive and Rift do (which it appears it does), an adjustable focus would be icing on the cake, but not a deal breaker for me, but can see how it might be for some.
Even more than general focus, is the focus across the lenses, the 4K is clear in the center but as you go towards the edges it gets fuzzy. What the lenses need is a bigger sweet spot. Hopefully that will be taken care of in the 8K as well.
I guess we can only wait and see.
I’ll keep my hopes that this has been addressed.
I too would like the 8K, but I’m not desperate. I can wait if it doesn’t measure up.
There are software and hardware adjustment for IPD, plus we offer customized VR frame, there will be two little magnets, you can attach the frame to the lens.
Okay thats great for ipd. But looking for info on focus. In one of the videos it looks like an attachment to the lens; is that for focus or something like prescription lenses?
Or with the magnetic attachment is that so focus spacers can be added & removed?