Varjo Aero sounds promising

It is more common than people would think. Though companies that have extensive experience either take time to build promoter accounts or use promoter services that build accounts for promoting.

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This while I have not tried the Varjo can see this statement being true. And it should be for the exuberant price tag. I would be curious to see if the reported distortions would be a bother to me or not. Though I suspect my adaptability would make it a non issue. But the price on the other hand with the added cost of reduced FoV would likely keep me from wanting to be an owner(more cost factor imho).


Pimax has been known in the past to have multiple accounts for varying purposes and often old habits are hard to break. Though it is usually easy to identify in most cases. Often freshly created and/or have pattern to post styles.

Typically though bot like accounts don’t hold much weight as often they lack substance. Ie Pros with Cons.

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why cant we reach conclusions even without trying it?you seemed to reach the same conclusions on the arpara 5k thread without even trying it,when i saw that professional spanish review i canceled my aero order and the 3 4 month delivery time aint helping with it by the time you even get it it might be obsolete,aint no way next gen “1.0” vr is 80 vertical fov smallest ever measured on a vr headset or 70 degree smallest stereo overlap again tiniest ever recorded so much less 3d across the view,there is nothing between you and the world but black edges and chromatic aberration for the small price of 2400 euro for pretty much just 35ppd.

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No, why would it? I don’t understand your post :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

You’re not just getting 35 ppd, you’re getting zero god rays due to aspherical lenses, you’re getting vibrant colours, you’re getting working eye tracking with auto ipd, you’re getting top notch comfort, you’re getting a sweetspot that is 80% of the image.

Honestly, when you have that much sweetspot the low vertical fov doesn’t bother you. I’ve seen some users report CA but not everyone does, i don’t see it. The no audio issue, it’s such a non issue. I just have earbuds plugged into the audio jack. Job done.

It’s not a perfect headset but the display and comfort are VR 1.0. Just you wait till you see your favourite games at 35 ppd in the 12K, you’ll be wowed.

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Id be getting the smallest vertical fov,small horizontal fov,smallest stereo overlap,manny people report distortions on such small fov wich i find unacceptable for the price EVEN after the last update,severe CA is mentioned i think by most people on discord and the review above and just like you dont report much of it,neither i notice much glare on my 8kx again i dont wanna trade CA over a bit of glare,i dont care about
sweet spot if the vertical fov is tiny,i dont want to replace bluriness with black borders,eye tracking is pretty much useless now by the time i will be able to use it in most games every headset will have it,let alone auto ipd for a single user,for 2400 euro i expect much more,i dont wanna have to do these trade offs with
an 8kx wich is unreasonable considering its 2 damn years old and half the price,even having second toughts about it shouldnt occur,if my games will look great at 35ppd on the 12k qled its because im not trading off other things for it,to me after im not seeing any sde wich i dont even on the 8kx the fov is the most important thing but thats subjective because im more into shooters than simming.

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I really wish you could try an Aero! You’d see what the fuss is about. But I don’t think you’d buy 1 due to the lower fov, i know you’re an fov nut! I adore clarity that’s why the Aero works for me. The 12K will have both :ok_hand:. I won’t be buying 1 though unless they’re on Amazon and i’m seeing largely positive & genuine (lol) customer reviews.

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i understand but im just too big of a fov whore,cant justify it for that money and trust me i tried to bestware customer service refunded my money twice lol.

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Of course you can and I did so too indeed quite often. However honestly after trying the headsets, my own experience was almost always different than the reviewer. I bought some headsets because MRTV loved them and I pretty much didn’t like them (He raved about the pimax 5k, StarVR and Vive Pro 2 for example, I didn’t like those too much myself). A review really only says so much. The Spanish reviewers (who got demolished on these forums btw for their criticism on the 5k and 8k headsets) didn’t like the Varjo too much neither. I thought their review was very thorough. Yet the big majority of people who bought the Aero are not using anything else anymore. So was it a good review? I do think so. However it certainly was not good if you took it as an advice (since it doesnt line up with the user experience)

Just saying, reviews only have very limited value when it comes to VR headsets it seems.

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It was because of that review,but more so the hardware measurments that i did not like for my preference i need decent fov,and ive read enough of user experience on discord i think ive read every opinion there,most of the buyers are simmers specially msfs players wich i agree being able to see very far into the distance and sharp in that game while also not having to deal with culling pimax bs is the most important thing and there isnt a better hmd at the moment,but i rarely play that,it aint worth double the price of an 8kx and still have significant downgrades in other areas,i dont even need to try it to know its not for me,if it had like 115 degree fov(was decent on the vp2)as i tought initially,normal overlap,normal vertical fov of 95+ also at least the damn local dimming enabled absolutely completely justifiable,but how it is rn it aint for me,and the delivery time is off putting anyway.

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Keep in mind atm @Djonko really is wowed about specific pros of the Varjo. Once he finally receives Xtal 8k v3 his preference may change even though Xtals are often heavy.

He is on the infinite quest for the VR grail. :beers::sunglasses::vulcan_salute::sparkles:

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Haha that’s for sure. And I’m already 100% sure that the XTAL will not be the grail neither. It’s a loooong road we’re on :slight_smile:

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Yes if fov is one of the most important factors for you, then it’s indeed easy and you should stick with a Pimax. Or if you’re crazy like some of us here, get an XTAL :wink:

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while that fov is amazing what am i the air force lol,i aint paying 10k just to play alyx again,i will wait for the 12k qled and whatever releases that is reasonable.

just curious i remember there was older version idk much about xtal,how did the previous version fared against the much lower priced 8kx,i remember the specs being similar.
edit:nvm ive read on this forum about it,this is aero thread.

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Not really sure as it target market is not consumer. It would likely compare better to Varjo enterprise. Vrgineers have had something like 5 or 6 headsets marketted. Starting with RoboVR & RoboVR2, then there Steam Compatible Xtal line of 5k & 8k models.

Just for the record, @knob2001 has recorded a new geometry for Varjo Aero implemented in the latest firmware, which improved the horizontal range. I put the updated data into HMDGDB (Varjo Aero (90Hz) | HMD Geometry Database).

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Hehe I was just thinking, I’ve actually seen all aspects of that holy grail already:

StarVR FoV, Varjo image fidelity and comfort (with @Davobkk’s strap of course), index geometric stability and refresh rates with HTC Vive Pro 1 colors and contrast. If some day we can have all that in one headset, then I don’t need to look no further :slight_smile: It’s at least 3 years away though for the simple fact that we’d need a 5090 to drive it. And big steps would need to be made in the optic research department. But one can always dream …

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that 3 degree actually might make all the difference tbh just one question,what is the reason of the overlap being soo small,the lenses seem nice,when i had my vive pro 2 with the thick foam i could see where the view becomes flat i only fixed it with a 6mm foam,can that be improved on the aero?like if i use a 6mm foam to get maybe at 80?or that is pretty much hardware maximum?.

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I am just a messenger :). I do not own Varjo Aero and I cannot comment on its design. Though I am not sure to which 3° you refer to. Just to recap. The original geometry was:

Total FOV:
    horizontal:  97.43 deg
    vertical:    80.69 deg
    diagonal:   111.48 deg
    overlap:     69.35 deg

The updated one is:

Total FOV:
    horizontal: 109.19 deg
    vertical:    82.94 deg
    diagonal:   119.57 deg
    overlap:     69.28 deg
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