On the other hand, the hope is still there that SteamVR will offer “parallel projection off” switch, because Valve surely know that when using the native projection they could run at lower res and have better image quality.
There could also be an API, which the game could use to tell the system it supports the canted geometry and the parallel projection stuff from Valve will switch off itself automatically. It would be unfortunate to “force” unconditionally all games to use PP when some already work fine without it.
SDE was the main deception of the 8K/5K initial hype was to end SDE. But this classification is arbitrary. the Index would still be the best consumer kit on the market until Pimax gets full it kit ready and iron out the bug on the software. Next HTC will probably challenge this with the cosmos resolution wise, large FOV still remains doubtful
The Index Improve on many feature but don’t break any Record (except for the refresh rate)… XTAL could be considered NEXT GEN because so many improvement are included with probably the best SDE
I’m looking forward to hearing comparisons to the Index from those who have had a positive experience with the 5k+ (or 8k). I really want to know how close the Index’s FOV feels to the normal FOV on the Pimax and how the clarity compares. Norm from Tested commented that he preferred the Index, but I don’t think he has even used the final version of the Pimax headsets and from what I recall he didn’t have a very positive experience back when he did test the earlier version. I personally have found that the 5k+ provides me with a great experience beyond the occasional software glitches so I’m curios to hear the comparison impressions from others who have had a great experience with the Pimax also. I had initially planned on getting the index controllers right away, but the pricing on them has made me hesitate, while the reasonable price on the headset only has me curious with how it would compare with my 5k+.
I keep seeing people talking about canted displays but cant find anything about canted displays on the index, I can however find bits about canted lenses.
or have i got this back to front.
I would love to hear an update from Pimax now about controllers. The safe bet is to pre-order some Index controllers (I don’t have or want Vive wands), but while they seem very good, there have been a few mentions of minor ergonomics issues and they are very expensive. I know I know, shouldn’t be worrying about cost on high end VR, but still
There’s so much I cannot say but I need to say one thing here. I have A/B’d these devices side-by-side for the last few months. So many people are underestimating what the Index does differently and does so well. It is almost not a comparable experience. Take that for what its worth until you try it for yourselves."
Well I do believe that this is a well thought-out HMD. I’m sure that due to the high refresh rates and optics it will give a very good feeling of presence (something that the pimaxes lack in my opinion). However as someone who really hates SDE, this is just not for me. Like Ben from RoadToVR noted " indeed, brings a sharper image, but is still far from eliminating the screen door effect." which translates for me to ‘skip this’. I’ve just pre-ordered the HP reverb instead.
I was wondering, those lighthouse 2.0 aren’t compatible with original Vive headset (but Index headset and controllers are still compatible with lighthouse 1.0).
What about Pimax 5K+ and 8K ?
Is it possible to use lightouse 2.0 with these headsets ?
Is a mix of both 1.0/2.0 would work ? (re-using existing 1.0 lighthouse and adding additional 2.0 units to extend the play area)
To make this clearer:
2.0 Light house base stations only work with products that have light house 2.0 sensors
1.0 Light house base stations will work with products that have light house 2.0 or 1.0 sensors
Can anyone calculate the PPD of the valve index vs the pimax 5k+? The index has 130 horiz fov, and 1440 x 1660 per eye. 5k+ has 170 horiz fov and 2560 x 1440 per eye. Both RGB
Just wondering if percieved resolution won’t be more because of less fov that it has
The lenses magnification and type make more of a difference as seen on the XTAL, but from a purely academic standpoint, the index is 36,775 pixels per degree, where as the pimax 5k+ is 43,369 pixels per degree, so the 5K+ should be a little sharper even with it’s greater fov! But we can’t know everything without seeing the lenses and panel utilization etc. I’d like to take a look through the HP reverb and xtal though as those are both better than pimax! If pimax could simply get the lens tech of the xtal, you probably wouldn’t need greater res than the 5k+ and could even apply an anti-sde filter to it as it would be so sharp from the get-go. Although far off distance still requires higher res, so clearly true 4K per eye on full RGB panels with very little magnified/clear lenses is the way to go in the future ultimately!
