no more than with any AMD card xD
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there’s always this
that is countered by how much you will waste on your Air Conditioning
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Ahhahahaaa , 60 bucks /month for an 5700 
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AMD makes cards? (sarcasm)
they can’t because of that can’t compete clause
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Would be a nice way to get some ROI, but let’s hope not, that would lead to even more insane prices. Fortunately afaik mining has become so competitive that it’s unprofitable without specialized hardware.
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They all do it in video thumbnails because an expressive face hijacks attention and forces interest. I agree it’s annoying but in the competitive landscape they are it is unlikely to change.
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Optimistically, doing the math, if final overclock ratios are equal due to the improved ‘7nm’ lithography, this card is (1695MHz/1545Mhz)*(5248cores/4352cores) 32% faster than an an EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 clocked to its potential.
Pessimistically, with no overclocking beyond 1695MHz, (1695MHz/2100Mhz)*(5248cores/4352cores) works out to hard performance ‘gains’ equivalent to 97% as well as an EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 clocked to its potential.
Quite possibly a step backward. At the very least, wait to buy until overclocking statistics are available for pre-binned vendor GPUs.
Of course one could argue… maybe the instructions per cycle went up… maybe some cool ‘AI’ technique speeds up some operations… but for the basic operations we VR users care about with our extremely high pixel counts and refresh rates… no.
SLi VR support remains my only hope for more comfortable performance margins.
By the way, if you buy a 10GB VRAM card, you will have problems running OVRDrop overlays. The RTX 3080 likely does nothing but push down the eBay price of the RTX 2080 Ti.
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Where I live up here in Canada. On of the major retail computer shops “CanadaComputers” have basically no stock of 2080Ti’s I was looking to see what they were selling for.
They only had one in stock the asus.
The price on these cards were $1600-1800 CAD which is basically unsellable.
They knew that and opted not to refresh stock , for months
Any body looking to get a very powerful 2080Ti’s only hope is those of us selling to upgrade.
I then checked NewEgg.ca and they also are almost totally dry on 2080Ti’s.
(EDIT:) Scratch that I just checked again and 2080Ti’s are nowhere in sight
Look at eBay, not retail, for last generation’s top-end hardware.
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I would look at Kijiji, CraigsList, etc as well. Or right here on the Pimax Forums. lol
Also yes that was my point. Retail is dried up for 2080Ti’s
the only hope is the used market for some folks
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Realistically those expressions are what most people should be making regarding the price of these cards.
I remember when a top of the line card cost you $400 bucks tops.
Also what’s with companies this year, you would never guess we are in the middle of an economic crisis due to covid.
Sony set to release PS5, Microsoft to release Xbox, Nvidia Dropping $2000 video cards
all of this is happening when 1/2 of the world was laid off due to covid. The responsible move here guys
just to bring it back to the topic of this thread, is don’t buy yet… save your $$
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The whole point of getting an RTX 2080 Ti is to get the extra GB of RAM, cheaper than a 3080, with a better chance of reselling it later. Because something that was never top of its generation like the 3080 is going to be less notable, and harder to resell, because fewer people will be looking for it…
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Historically the next gen cards price tier would equal the previous gens higher tier cards performance at the lower tiers price
eg
970 = 1060
780Ti = 970
2070 = 1080
2080 = 1080Ti
but nvidia screwed the pricing up with the 20 series and now thinks they can get away with it, which is because A they have no competition and B we foolishly bought their 2080Ti’s
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Why would we stop fawning over something? We love to get excited about things
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Yeah and that’s why we are in the situation we are in now, $1000’s of dollars sunk in backer-hell
I just realized you are the OP of this topic. 
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It really depends on what GPU you currently have. I got a watercooled overclocked 2080TI. I wont upgrade. The 2080 TI + eye tracking DFR (actually it is good enough without) is simply good enough.
If I’d had an older card the 3080 would be the logical choice though.
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Seriously, this past winter, I’d run Folding@Home whenever my feet (underneath the desk, next to the PC) got cold. A 2080 makes a dandy room heater. I never run F@H in the summer.
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At $700 confirmed for a 3080 I’m curious what the 2080 ti will go for. I can’t imagine it will be worth getting one since you’re giving up a warranty tbh (at least if we’re talking used).
We’ll have to wait for real benchmarks, but I’m cautiously super hyped, these prices are fantastic.