RTX 30 Series Discussion - Part 2

I’d like to see a comparison between EVGA FTW3 Ultra and Asus ROG Strix OC. They’re both practically the same price but I went with EVGA because I don’t trust that Asus will have enough in stock. They were the very last card to appear in the stores.

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Found this tweet:
https://twitter.com/Spikemouth/status/1309125241592049664?s=19

Oct 21st. Yikes.

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Unless You’re going to do crazy overclocking, it probably doesn’t matter:
https://community.openmr.ai/t/rtx-30-series-discussion-part-2/31656/8?u=drwilken

I’m counting on the Strix cards to use at least the same quality of components as the TUF ones.

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Yeah, @lordchaos, if it works you keep it. If it doesn’t, return it (I assume you’re an EU citizen, so you can retract the purchase).

The Gigabyte Eagle OC is only not tolerant towards bad chips that are sensitive to V drops. If you have a decent or good chip (silicon lottery) that still works properly with low voltage, the capacitor selection of Gigabyte won’t affect you.

Source: Igorslab, 27.09.

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This section was interesting to me, didn’t really have on the radar that the main quality of a high bin chip is that it can reach a higher frequency with the same voltage (or the same frequency with a lower voltage) than a low bin one. Thought it could eat higher voltages (and thus higher clock speeds).
That would mean that it might actually be beneficial to look for an OC card (that thus is likely from a higher bin) which I could downclock to normal levels then to reach good undervoltage results for best temps and silence in a SFF case.
On the other hand I got pretty good results with my 1080 TI FE which wasn’t really an OC card. Could have been luck of course. Hm…

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In this case the later release date is probably a good thing, as it gave them time to bin the cards, use the actual driver and configure the correct components.

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Yeah, but to be honest I have no patience to wait any longer for a card that might have marginally better performance than the EVGA FTW3 Ultra.

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Why does he benchmark with HLA?

It has adaptive quality reduction to keep target framerate :grin:

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Yes, that one doesn’t show anything…

Interesting to note is that all games stay near 6 to 7GB of VRAM usage. I wonder if the Pimax 8kx required more VRAM across the board.

I still haven’t found a reason to get a 3090. I got a MSI RTX 3080 Trio X Gaming coming and an Asus RTX 3080 TUF OC ordered and intend to keep the better one. But thinking about an RTX 3090 FE…

For 10% better performance in the 8kx, 700€ more? Really don’t know.

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i think that most games, even vr games, is designed to stay within the vram of most commonly used cards at the settings the cards are likely to be able to drive them. So only modded games like giga texture packs or high supersampling is likely to push the vram useage out of the comfort zone of most cards yet. for 3090’s 24gb to matter you need to be doing stuff to your gpu that is probably considered cruel and unusual by normal people.

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I mean… that’s not going to stop me from trying…

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Haha, yeah, I’m going to torture that bad boy.

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Ah ok ok thanks, yes im am in the EU.
I’ll just wait patiently :slight_smile:

Same here, except that I probably won’t upgrade my CPU yet, because it yields almost no benefit for high res gaming.

I was planning to go for the 3080, before its release, but seeing now how mediocre it performs for the price (expecting the 20GB version to be significantly more expensive), I’m now back to favoring the 6900XT.

I expect the 6900XT to be significantly cheaper, similar performance, more energy efficient, more transistor efficient, possibly better features like DP 2.0 than the RTX 3080. Overall, AMD seems to have a superior GPU arch for gaming now.

Nvidia has some features of its own, like DLSS, which I’d really like to try though and think have potential for the future. Currently, DLSS looks similar to regular upscaling with a post-processing sharpening filter, while costing much more performance, so not very impressive yet.

The other thing is, Pimax only really supports Nvidia GPUs, which is a shame and a reason to buy Nvidia instead of AMD. It’s also a reason to not buy Pimax though, because every other headset runs with less issues on AMD, than the amount of issues with Pimax even on Nvidia GPUs.

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Not in this case. The Asus TUF is as cheap as they come and has 6 MLCCS on both the 3080 and 3090.

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Yeh - was supposed to be available same day 3090 was released according to Nvidia official website. Still isn’t showing.

You sir - made the best choice. Igor’s lab started this whole theory - and actually gave a shout-out to Asus Tuf for using 6 MLCC’s. They are more expensive than POSCAP. I am no engineer so won’t speculate on if a combination is better - though there are a hell of a lot more capacitors on that GPU than what we are talking about on this particular issue. Check out gamernexus buildzoid teardown if you are super keen at being in way over your head like me. In any case you have 6 of the more expensive capacitors on the cheapest out of the box solution - which incidentally - is doing amazingly well on thermals and clock speeds compared to its out of the box brothers - even with quick and dirty MSI Afterburner overclocking. Seems like none of them have much stability above a certain point - makes me wonder if the high end versions are really going to be worth it this time round as it may be inherent limits in the architecture. Have to wait to find out. I always went top end before, this time - I am starting with an Asus TUF 3090 non overclocked version. Can always reflash the bios… easier than ever with perofrmance/quite mode. Plus, I got it cheap compared to everything else on the market ($200 less than other partner 3090s)… got lucky with the right vendor. Competitors are selling the exact same card for $700 more elsewhere. If the strix really does have crazy good performance, will reassess that down the road after we know more about AMD’s offering.

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Ugh… shop has a single 3090 msi gaming x trio (non oc) in stock, but now i had my mind set on the strix… but this is available now… arrrgh.