Checkout this link as it talks about a fellow porting older games like Quake 3 Arena to a device like the Quest 2.
World of Padman used Quake 4 Arena engine with the Portal and Quest being Xr2 devices this might be good to look into the porter and this game team to bring this old Family friendly game to the Reality XR2 devices.
https://worldofpadman.net/en/news/wop-as-a-virtual-reality-game/
The WoP team is currently working on 1.7 of there original game.
okay, already get answer that the mini station can play pc game.
But if we install steam os, it still can use wigig?
Not sure about the os and how about xbox pc game pass.
Can we install windows os?
Please give more detail.
Xbox cloud gaming is another solution, but need to use vpn for my country and little lag. (canāt install mod and Moonlight + notebook at home may is better for me.)
āvirtual desktopā which has vr environment to play desktop is interesting, try to partner with him.
letās see something over the edge. the idea is not bad with portal, when the everyday life of the population consists of being locked away from covid for all eternity. you get set up.
Does anyone remember Pimax Sword controllers from 2019? Oh Lord.
You canāt install steam OS, the portal is an ARM based system running the XR2. Afaik, there is no way to run steam OS on ARM.
Same for windows, although windows does have an ARM version but itās not going to be possible to install windows. At least not officially, so definitely donāt be getting the handheld with the expectations of being able to do so.
Think of it like an android tablet or phone in terms of base software compatibility. You can install any android apps or games, including all the usual emulators etc then it can also run VR games that are ported to it which should be relatively easy thanks to the XR2 being stand in Quest 2, Pico 4 etc.
Those sorts of apps will work out of the box, like Xbox cloud, Geforce now etc. If itās on android, it will be able to work on Portal.
I completely agree with this sentiment. I have asked Guy if he is intending on doing so but no word from him yet. I know he is working on the full openXR version of VD, so that should make it simple enough to port over and get working so hopefully VD will come to all future Pimax devices.
He is asking about the portal Station that is running the And apu r7 6800u
Omg haha, Iām so sorry. I am an idiot! Thanks for correcting me on that!!
I feel that this product is going to bring new people into Pimax. Like me. I can understand why existing owners may not be interested but thereās an entire segment of people who want some quick casual way to get into VR without dawning a massive headset that makes you look like a hammerhead shark.
Nah if Kevin hadnāt mentioned it I would have thought the same. 
Welcome!
I agree that the Portal is unlikely to appeal to existing Pimax owners. What Iād like to understand is why the Portal appeals to you. You mention the size of the headset being an important factor to you. But then why not favor a Pico 4 over the Portal? Or just a Quest 2?
Iām not meaning to be flippant with the question. Iāve been struggling to see what target audience the Portal would appeal to which isnāt better served by some other product. So if youāre interested in buying a Portal yourself, Iām very interested in how you have evaluated it and how it applies to your use case such that you come to that conclusion.
Even watching the presentation again, I donāt get from it that the Mini Station brings SteamDeck-like portable capability to play Steam games on the Portal. As you say, this is only known because Kevin mentioned it on a post which will soon be buried deeply in a large thread and lost to most people. And yet this seems like a particularly important bit of information to me which significant changes the value proposition of the Portal as a handheld console.
Much of my concern for the value of the Portal as handheld is that smartphone gaming is not very robust in terms of the actual gaming experience. There are many Android games, sure. But the overall quality of that library is notably poor. Certainly it doesnāt compare well to the Steam library of games. Or Nintendo Switchās game library.
But if the Portal can play Steam games in a similar manner to the SteamDeck and possibly better than the SteamDeck, well thatās interesting.
I believe the Station might be an accessory vs ships with it.
The Station has the Wgig.
Because I play flat games too. I could get a Portal and play 80% Streaming PC games in bed and like 20% VR.
Vs. 100% VR with a Quest 2. But realistically more like 20% VR and 80% it sitting there not being used.
Thatās a very good use case, i understand it. Tell me, have you ever VR gamed before? Be aware, once u have, flat gaming for some people just doesnāt appeal like it used to :). Itās good youāll have both options though plus like u said u can game in bed. I watch netflix in vr in bed.
Heās right though. I see a handful of people Asking very loudly who is ever going to want this Pimax Portal thing. A handheld that converts into a standalone headset with a direct PCVR VR connection. Who would ever want that!?!?
Meanwhile there are 1700 people subscribed to the Kickstarter and it hasnāt even started yet.
Yes Iāve played VR. The biggest problem for me is the weight. I donāt like having it on my head. Itās good for short bursts of fun though. Not so much for playing long form in depth flat games.
I agree with this. My VR gaming sessions never go over 1 hour, usually they are about 30 minutes. When I used to play 2D I could game for hours at a time, I miss it but I donāt have the time to do that at the moment. But even if I had time I donāt think Iād game in VR for hours at a time, itās just not really suited to it imo, not for me anyway.
JameJame makes interesting arguments for the Portal. Iām starting to come around to seeing potential in this thing. Itās such a radical departure, and it just seems like Pimax is off its rocker.
But then again, the 12K seemed crazy and far fetched to me at first, too.
I really think they should have kept the frontier event more streamlined, while also mentioning the 12K/Crystal. Then do another āDev Eventā that mentioned all the extra things, like the FBT, the VR fitness games on the flatscreen etc and mention them as possible avenues for developers to explore. That way it would have reduced a great deal of skepticism imo.
Going to watch that video now, just wanted to spout that thought ha.
I was just going to reply how this didnāt make ANY sense at all to me. If you donāt like having it on your head why go for a headset that 100% surely is going to feel even less comfortable than the Quest on your head (because of way more difficult way balancing). You donāt sound like a VR gamer to me, why not just buy a steamdeck, play all steam games natively (!) and be done with it? But then it hit me, damn Djonko, you forgot about PORN!!! Of course! Iām sure thereās a whole market there of guys who donāt care about VR gaming, they just want quick and probably just cheap access to VR Porn. They own(ed) a google cardboard but are wondering if thereās a way to get better quality without spending much money. For them this device actually might make sense. So the VR aspect of this Portal thing actually might be less dumb than I thought. However, I STILL wonder, why not get both the steamdeck AND a quest, sure itās slightly more expensive but itās just going to get you better handheld gaming (with a huge library of Steam games, no need to stream things) and better VR. Then again, if youāre really tight on money, donāt really care about VR gaming and just want access to VR porn I guess the Portal actually might make sense.
But then letās say this kickstarter sells over 5000 units, probably enough for Pimax to really build the device. So then they serve the very high end of VR gaming with the most expensive gaming headsets in the market and the very lowest segment out there for people who canāt really afford a VR headset or want to spend as little money on it to just get access to porn. I still donāt see how this is a good business strategy. I mean if youāve made a decision as a company what you want to be: quality or price fighter, then you can organize everything you do around that. It makes it easy to make decisions, you just need to ask yourself, is this decision going to add quality or lower the price and then youāll know if itās a good decision. But if you want to serve both the very high end customer and the absolute low end customer, youāre just making things difficult for yourself.
One example is your marketing, which message do you want to convey? Or your service department, high paying customers expect service, but you canāt have excellent service if youāre serious on price fighting. So how do you organize that? Itās conflicting for all of your business decisions and the way you organize things.