We’ll I was thinking XR-3 not VR-3.
Aero needs rapid evolution.
Index2 needs to be here early next year and It would funny if there was a Apple pairing.
You mean the Deckard? Still no announcement from Valve last I heard. As long as the Index is selling as Valve has demonstrated they are not in any hurry to release a new hesdset.
These are not consumer devices but really high-end business devices. The aero is just a better headset for gamers, since it’s way lighter. The VR3 would always give me neck strain and it would not offer any advantages at all since the high res focus part would not even be triggered. And when it would be triggered (in the Varjo demos) you’d very clearly see the part where it would cross over between the two displays.
The VR3 would be suitable though for business who would need that ultra high resolution and with apps specifically built for it. I’m sure it’s the same for the XR3. I don’t think it’s a good option for gamers.
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For this I think we may need the what seeks to be at this time still a dream of Lightfield displays or maybe Mojo vision contacts. I suspect a lot of it is related to the canting that maybe is causing variant focus to screen? vs parallel mounted displays that have consistent focus to screen distsnce.
Indeed with his list. It is surprising he mentions 8kX for WFoV instead of saying go Xtal. lol
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I really see the portal as a pretty good ‘starter kit’ for VR… folks can buy it as a flat gaming device at what will be an attractive price point and then add on VR capabilities as they wish.
I think the potential is very high since it’s android and steam play compatible.
Is it perfect for me? No… but if I had kids at home it would be a better choice for me than most gaming options. I think it may do quite a bit better than some folks here believe.
Let’s wait and see how it tests out on the ‘road shows’ and when it gets into reviewers hands before rushing to crap on Pimax again.
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Yep very much agreed. And if you have a family do you want to let them use your 2k or 3k headset? Or something more friendly price point with less worry. I like the fact ut is also able to be used as more than just a vr device.
It is not cardboard as it can be scaled up to be the chesp vr device with all the potential xr3 features. To me this is a potential awesome successor to the Artissn that is so much more.
But like you said really need to wait and see the Riadshow results. I really wish it was possible for me to be able to attend. However at this time not likely able to swing it. This year has been hard on the pocket.
I do know friends that will definitely have a keen interest in the Portal. As they did go for the WiiU and the PsVita and of course the Switch(but iirc didn’ t go for the after thought VR.
I fo think they have proposed some adfons that are not a great idea. However it is as others have said to put feelers out to see what folks might take an interest in this or that.
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This actually is a bit confusing. Steam uses X86/64 architecture. And this portal device is using ARM architecture. How would it be able to run Steam games? I understood Pimax is also offering some PC like device with it. You could then indeed maybe stream the Steam games to the handheld device. But that would be cumbersome AND expensive.
If it, out of the box, could run Steam games, at a (significant) lower price point than Steamdeck, then it might not be dead in the water. But still, it would take away important resources from the high-end VR department of Pimax and would still not make sense from a business perspective.
Steamlink Ap. So not really a direct competitor to thr Steamdeck but potentially a nice at home so yo speak steam device.
Hence why it is maybe called Portal.
Granted the Dtramdeck using SteamOS could also use things like Streaming services as being a full linux OS. But not really able to be used for VT save some have experimentted using it with a Quest with some success.
Not sure what that is, can you explain? What exactly can you play with this device?
Long ago Valve released a Hardwsre Stesmlink Streaming device during the time of the Steamconttoller.
Eventually theu discontinued the Stesmlink that could use wireless or direct ethernet. The Steamlink Ap in the Android store would allow you to use an Android Device to allow you to Stresm your gaming pc to. Connect your controller and use it anywhere within your wifi network.
Yeah so you can stream from a PC device. But then you’d still need a PC, power it up, set it up etc. And you won’t be able to use it mobile, unless you have a streaming device with you. Which would make it more heavy and more expensive.
Nah, I’m still betting this is going to be a failure. I could be wrong, but hope I’m right. Worst case scenario would be if the kickstarter would just bring in enough money to pursue this project. And THEN after very hard work, money and resources it would still fail.
For now as Valve has not gotten into Streaming services. Though if Nvidia is still doing there gane streaming service iurc you can play high end steam games on the go.
So like Onlive that was bought by Sony.
But then your paying monthly streaming fees. vs at home it is free from your pc.
Still, buying the Steamdeck with direct access to all steam apps to play them natively would have a huge advantage over this Pimax device.
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Yes. but pimax wouldn’t be able to subsidize the price to sell at say a loss relying more on game sales.
Then of course pimax would definitely be taking resources away from having content for the XR2 platform. The Portal acts on one side a great idea to give DeVs an incentive ti Develop content for pimax xr2 devices. The content can also be made if a Dezv wants to support VR and Flat gaming. That csn be used on all of pimax Reality gaming devices in Standalone mode.
Remember the outrage of Half life fsns when Alyx released as VR only?
What games exactly? They’d need to be specifically developed for their device.
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Pimax? Currently none as they have no Xr2 content. Hence whybatvoresent they said Stand alone mode.
Vs Valve whom makes a mint off if content bought on Steam platform.
The Portal being part of pimax’s Reality Xr2 devices suggests if you use the reality sdk to develope stand alone mode content on one for Vr it can be used on all Reality products.
This is why 100 free dev kits for qualifying Applicant DeVs.
Exactly so for it to become a success, developers will need to write flat games for the XR2 platform. I don’t see any big studio writing such games for that platform. Maybe they can get some indy developers to write some games but that will be about it.
To some extent us very true for native non streaming.
But if your making a VR gane for pimax Xr2 VR it will be easier to put flat mode option. So for example a fps can have native VR and native fkat gaming without necessarily being as difficult as there is not a million variants of xr2 cpus/gpus etc…
While maybe not a great example as it was part of the abandoned google vr platform. but Shadowgun? if I have the nane right could be played in cardboard vr with a ganepad or flat mode.
That being said you can play say Grand Theft Auto 3, Vice City and not sure if Rockstar ported other gta titles to Android natively.
So there is already a decent amount of actually native Android games and emulators ported for use on Android devices that may need some small updates.