Almost like they are investing in a platform they expect to last longer than the 2 months the kickstarter runs for.
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I think writing the whole forum off as toxic is a bit unfair. There are maybe a handful of people who have gone on and on and wont drop it but for the most part there have been alot of really balanced and thoughtful takes on the whole situation. Yes, alot of people are worried about this new product. People talking about it does not make this forum toxic. I wont let a couple of jokers who take things too far write off the entire forum for everyone else. Pimax barely ever comes to here anymore anyway, instead posting more on Discord. I would hate for them to leave entirely because of a perceived negative bias. Even if there were a negative bias here, talking to us is how that can be changed. As a direct example, Keven recently just posted a nice write up about Pimaxâs parallel business structure and why the flagship products arenât being put on the backburner. This has never been talked about here before and it did alot to curb my anxiety about the future of this company.
We need more stuff like that. More behind the scenes glimpses. It was nice to hear a more detailed explanation of why exactly the 12k is delayed instead of just a generic 70% number.
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Pimax members are always around. The compartmentalize business structure has been mentioned before. Though not sure how many would understand how it works if one has minimal xp with it.
I do agree a discussion both good and bad dors not equal Toxic. It makes for a bslanced discussion if ppl keep it civil. No jumping to toxic comments simply because view points fo not match oneâs own preference.
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I am still on the bandwagon of âMaybe wait the literal few days for third party road show impressions before seriously judging either wayâ.
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Hehe I read more wishful thinking and dreaming than any sense of reality. I think thatâs what makes the different types of persons here on this forum anyway, the realists vs the dreamers. For now the realists have been right all along and the dreamers have been wrong all the time. Unfortunately for Pimax I expect this pattern to continue for a while.
Day two on the kickstarter ends with about 340 sales. Yesterday it seemed they were on track towards 4000 sales. Now it indeed looks more like 2000. For which they have given away 1000 free dev kits. Yeah sure, all this makes a lot of sense âŚ
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Like clockwork, Atmos even liked your comment within 10 mins! Go team real!! (Iâm just making a dumb joke bte, not actually trying to talk bad lol)
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Well said Heliosurge. I try to keep it civil and 99% of my comments are directed at Pimax.
If Iâm not wrong Pimax controls Discord and can delete and ban people at will? Which might explain why Pimax critics arenât seen there as much.
I doubt Apple will care about Pimax when they release their headset next year. Or Valve or HTC. Business is ruthless.
If Pimax want yes men they already have them in Kevin and Swiviver. They get paid to say yes.
If Pimax want to ignore the critics then good luck with Road to VR and UploadVR. No one gets a free ride and eventually the investments dry up and projects like the Sword controllers fail, the 12k doesnât get released on time and the real competition starts to bite.
But Pimax knows best I guess.
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This is definitely not the case and thereâs been some extreme criticism there and directly toward some of the reps thatâve appeared at time.
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Yeah I donât think theyâll ban you there. Nor will they ban you here as long as you keep it civil. Which btw is one thing I actually do like about Pimax. I know company forums where they hit you with the ban hammer if you say only 1 bad thing about their products. Needless to say Iâm not buying any of those products ever again. While Iâm still interested in the 12K, although at this point I really donât know anymore when that will be released ⌠But if Pimax releases a new interesting high end product Iâll most likely buy it. Iâve bought 4 of their headsets already and will buy more, if they seem to be any good
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And I saw your buddy Sargon already typing, letâs see what the âdream teamâ will come up with now 
And now alltogether:
âYou may say Iâm a dreamer,
but Iâm not the only one.
I hope someday youâll join us.
And the world will live as one.â
or
"I have a dreamâŚ
⌠that one day âŚ
Pimax will release
the 12K"
Although I grew up myself with this one, the better stuff: 2 Brothers On The 4th Floor - Dreams Will Come Alive - YouTube
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These guys provide good and well reasoned criticism of Pimax.
Thatâs rather different than just trolling on Pimax.
Curiously, I have posted some rather harsh criticism of Pimax myself, including on this thread, but that seems to be ignored whenever someone wants to paint me as a Pimax yes man.
Can you give some examples of forum posts that you think is âtrolling on Pimaxâ? Just curious. While I donât always agree with @Atmos I agree to a lot of what he says. And even though he puts it a bit harsh sometimes, the truth sometimes also is. I donât believe anyone here is âtrolling on pimaxâ, I think most of the skeptics here have bought more pimax hardware than you have. Weâre here because weâre interested in Pimax. And weâre sad because they keep on making dumb decisions that will lead to failure for themselves, which is bad for us all. Thatâs pretty much it.
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But yeah itâs interesting. Weâre all here for the same reason. We want Pimax to release the 12K and we want it to be better than anything thatâs out there. But it seems you guys just feel that you need to âdefend pimaxâ in order for that to happen. That their success will somehow depend on you guys trying to convince people that wrong is right. While we think itâs better to call them out on stupid decisions. Because if they wouldnât make those bad decisions in the first place you wouldnât even need to defend anyone
The irony is of course that all we say here doesnât even matter, itâs going to make 0 difference in the end anyway haha. But you gotta do something while youâre waiting 
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Welcome to OpenMR. 
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Not true. The Discord is community ran by @XabbuSwe and his fellow admins. Pimax did decide to make that discord offiicial.
And no pimax doesnât look for yes ppl.
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Yes @XabbuSwe sold his soul for some free pimax t-shirts which seemed kind of cheap to me but we all have our price so I wonât judge. Haha jk xabbu knows I love him.
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This demonstrates that you donât actually read my posts. Youâve already said as much explicitly a few times now. Please stop pretending you know what my position even is when you canât be bothered to read it.
Guys,
I think itâs time to calm down. Okay?
Letâs get a drink and chill.
We are not arguing about YES MAN or NO MAN for Pimax, or being a fanboy that defend to Pimax.
We can always have some nice, gentle discussion on here. Iâd love to see you guys exchange the suggestions or comments on the hardware, software or others.
Please be positive and have a good one 
Okay?
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Glad to be here! 
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I just noticed that the screen on the Portal is only 5.5"? This thing is really small, like as small as my phone. Makes me less concerned about the offset analog sticks with something that small I donât think it will be an issue.