In light of @SweViver 's new video, and comments from the testers, it’s obvious that the diamond pattern panels are not ideal. According to TI DLP® “Diamond” Pixel - KGOnTech , native resolution is the worst case scenario for this style of pixel. Spanish team was all amazed at how bad the 8K looks compared to the 4K, why shouldn’t it look as clear but with a wider FOV. Looks like we arrived on the main stopping point. Adding all the complications with scaling, upscaling and downscaling, it’s more obvious why the 5K+ is the winning choice.
It’s probably too late to save the 8K, but please consider using a different panel for the 8KX.
The 8k have vertically oriented pixels with 45° alignment…since they shape is rectangular, both alignment and orientation have to be the same to dont create gaps.
It’s possible that a RGB stripe panel doesn’t exist in the right dimensions for the 8KX. If that’s the case I would prefer to know ahead of time. As an 8KX backer I would stick to the 5K+ and give the 8KX a pass.
I think 8kx should contend the Star vr one and use new lenses as well. Do 220 horizontal and human eye vertical with oled panels at 120hz. But screw 4k panels on it.
I agree. looking at the photos it seems the 8k screen is actually worse than pentile. It’s obviously too late for the 8k but for 8kx they should either wait for a true low persistence 4k RGB (for every pixel!) LCD or even put in one of the many pentile OLED screens. That would at least get us from the current half the subpixels of a true RGB stripe display to two thirds and give us OLED true blacks as well.
Either is fine with me and would give a big step over the 5K+ though of the two I’d rather have true RGB stripe LCD If I had to choose. The entire point of not using an OLED was to avoid a pentile grid. Now we have no OLED blacks AND pentile (ish, it might be pentile RBGG per two pixels or it might be even worse and only be RGB per two pixels so literally half a true RGB stripe but alternating). Why bother?
I’m not fussed about the new lenses. I’m at least 50 percent convinced the remaining edge distortion can be corrected by moving to the 4 viewport rendering on RTX2080 like Starvr used to fix theirs instead of it being the fault of the lenses alone.
Seeing the subpixel pattern of the 8K panels totally changed my mind. I used to think the scaler was the problem on why the 5K+ looks better than the 8K, assuming 3 subpixel per pixel on both devices. Since it is clear now, that the 8K only has 1.5 instead of 3 subpixel per pixel, the problem now is on the panels. That also means that the 8K X won’t provide a substantial increase in quality compared to the 8K. I expect the 8K X to be quality wise at the same level as the 5K+ with far higher performance requirements, assuming the same panels that the 8K uses are used too.
I would also suppose, that Pimax uses better panels for the 8K X since otherwise it does not really make sense to produce it at all.
Yeah me too. I’ll probably take the 5k+ till the 8kx arrives then sell it and see what else has come out by then. Unless they replace these screens of course.