Oh I’m sorry am I not allowed to tell the truth (that you are acting like an 8 year old)? It’s pretty painful reading through the same demeaning content every day on these forums from the same small group of bitchy members… You guys are making this place cancer with your constant demands for more EVERY TIME you get some bit of info.
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Adults can take criticism. You’re coming here with your fanboy ‘only good news allowed show’, please go away and have that show elsewhere. Leave this to the adults. Thanks.
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No, there’s a difference between beating a dead horse and bringing up a new problem. You are beating a dead horse. Criticism doesn’t need to be repeated 1000 times a day by the same person.
No, I’m telling that Pimax promised an update to discuss the CES response. This is not it. No mention at all of the CES problems. We’re not regular customers. We’re investors in this project. Pimax could show us some respect and acknowledge that and talk to us about the problems.
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You are nitpicking over reviews on a prototype, in which they have already said they are going to be refining before the final version. You should try showing them some respect if you think you deserve any in return, because right now you just sound like a whining baby to me.
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Where is that showing exactly ? Xunshu just literally said that the CES reviewers said that the product is ALMOST ready !! WTF ??? That’s extremely far from reality. They also said that they’re now moving onto ‘M1’, indicating they are leaving the prototyping stage, while there is an avalanche of issue’s. And then they’re talking about Q2, which really seems impossible. Even if they would not fix any issue’s, at this point Q2 MIGHT be possible but optimistic. And that’s without fixing anything.
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You have no idea what caused the issues at CES, did you create the prototype? Maybe you should show some faith in Pimax rather than constantly assuming the worst. You are just stressing yourself and everyone else out over some shit that may or may not even turn out to be a problem in the end. It’s entirely possible a chain reaction of things went wrong which lead to the total meltdown we saw at CES. NEWSFLASH: ITS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD.
Do you think all your bitching is going to change the final product? If Pimax wants to dupe us and give us a low quality product, they are going to do so regardless of what you say to them on the forums. Actually, I would say they will be more likely to give us a low quality product if all their backers continue sitting around bitching and complaining about every little bit of information they provide to us. They have literally shown us at every step of the way that they are just going to do whatever they do regardless of the community outcry, have you not figured that out yet?
You know what’s FOR SURE is not going to change anything at all ? If you make it sound like it’s all good. You’re like this Social Justice Warrior type of guy, defending this bad behaviour and feel good about it. Telling others they should just shut up, because defending the weak (pimax) is always something good. No, it’s NOT! They need to get with the program, acknowledge the issue’s, communicate and fix them.
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No one is making it sound like its all good, you just don’t need to continue screaming about how bad the CES model was when you actually have never tried it. We get it, CES was a trainwreck promises were broke etc etc (all shit that has been said 1000 times on these forums).
You do ! You want people to shut up about the problems, make it look like nothing bad is going on, you feel great about yourself defending Pimax and think this will actually help them making a better product. If everybody tells Pimax everthing is fine, do you really think they’ll fix things ?
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Post edited, please refrain from insults on this forum
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@deletedpimaxrep1: I appreciate that the Pimax team is under immense pressure at the moment, having missed the schedule and getting critized. And you will be afraid that if you tell us now what the status is, that you will get more critique on this forum, and in articles in VR publications.
The fact that, after Pimax having announced to address the issues this week, we do not get this information tells me that they are so big that Pimax don’t want to admit them, because they fear the fallout.
Instead what you are doing now is tell everybody to not worry, everything is under control, just a bit of fine-tuning needed, and then (after a feedback round with selected people) production starts. But - if the issues were as simple as suggested you would have addressed them to the backers and explained, why it’s not a big deal.
Assuming what I am saying is correct, how do you want to come back in 2, 6 or 12 weeks and then have to say that Pimax had issues all along you could not resolve ? Pimax had to issue an apology letter once before and committed itself to more transparency. It will be difficult to repeat this procedure a second time, you know.
May I suggest that your team really sit down and reconsider to address the issues in the coming few days and not only in two weeks ? I really think if you tell us like it is now, and don’t try to cover it up for another 2, 4 or 6 weeks, it will be far easier for Pimax to deal with the backers. Now we would be disappointed, and some annoyed. In 2,4,6 weeks ? Some would really be angry because they would feel that there was a deliberate misinformation on the side of Pimax.
So unless Pimax are super-confident to resolve most of these issues in the coming few weeks, I would re-think the communication strategy very carefully.
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I’m just wondering… WHAT FALLOUT? They already have our money, what reason do they have to lie to us? Literally all this speculation is coming from paranoid backers who can’t stomach the fact that they have $500+ on the line (and if that’s the case you should have never put it forward in the first place).
If they are going to send us a low quality product, that’s their plan and you aren’t going to change it. The only “fallout” that’s coming is when they release a half baked product and the internet explodes on them.
I feel like all you skeptics are wanting Pimax to just crack and admit they failed and tell you you’re right and all your worries are true. WHAT KIND OF COMPANY WOULD DO THAT? They aren’t giving up and you should all be happy about that fact. Nothing is going to ease your doubt other than having the final product in your hand… so what is the point about stressing over this when you literally have no control over it?
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No speculation, just read the CES reviews.
??? No one wants pimax to ‘crack’. This is a prototype for crying out loud, not a final product !! The whole idea is that Pimax gets feedback and processes is so that the next PROTOTYPE is a step closer to perfection. You seem to want to frustrate that process and want Pimax to keep claiming everything is fine and have them release a broken product ASAP
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Every time you assume Pimax isn’t going to address the issues encountered as CES you are speculating. Can you refute this fact?
They promised they’d address the CES issues THIS week, in stead they fed us a whole bunch of nonsense. You don’t want people to point that out, because it’s not part of your ‘ONLY GOOD NEWS’ show.
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I’m just not concerned about how they are going to fix every little issue, and I’m not going to nitpick and demand updates every week on the forums. Pimax has gotten the headset extremely far without our funding, so why after being given a bunch of money is the headset all of a sudden going to just become bad? Clearly they will fix the problems, if they don’t they will have a ton of pissed off consumers bashing them here and in other places on the internet.
Yes, that’s right, I think the time to panic is after the headsets are delivered and are less than stellar; not now when we are just making speculations based on a prototype.
What makes you so certain? There’s NOTHING in Xunshu’s post that indicates that. Quite the contrary, they’re moving away from the prototyping stage!
You mean just like with the Pimax 4k? History repeating itself indeed …
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Because if they don’t there will be severe fallout and their reputations permanently tarnished. Xunshu is clearly not a developer, so why not take what she says with a grain of salt?
I knew about the Pimax 4K and its rocky launch/existence. I chose to back the 8K anyway. If you went into this situation knowing about the 4K in the first place then what do you really have to complain about?
That’s no different than the Pimax 4k launch then. What makes you think it’s different this time?
All I’m saying, don’t just sit back and just ‘trust’ in Pimax to work things out. If Xunshu indicates that they’re not focusing on fixing the problems, then people should be able to point that if, if you like it or not. Maybe it will force them into rethinking their strategy and do the wise thing: keep on prototyping to fix things, instead of moving onto “M1” like Xunshu indicates, and have that delivered in 2-3 months. M1 will be a disaster if that happens, mark my words.
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