That’s on the original post…
Q: The shipping schedule for controllers and modules?
A: The project team is working on a detailed schedule for controllers, base stations, and modules. For now, the headset is the top priority.
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I used that, back in the nineties. With a Commodore Amiga 3000.
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thanks.Missed it.My bad
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I hope that you once have the final version and we are all happy with the reports of the testers, do not make a disaster with the production phase. if a unit is defective, that does not leave the factory … find dead pixels or strange things once we put them on for the first time, it would be something … inexpressible with words … 
please be careful with that
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On the subject of:
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beta testers: I think a healthy mix should be the aim, not only the critical Ben Lang/Jeremy and Norm/Linus type of reviewers, but also (but not only!) the VR enthusiasts who will rather tend to forgive flaws if they do not ruin the experience.
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road show: the problem with feedback from the road shows is that Pimax have shown a tendency to demonstrate the 8K in very limited/controlled scenario’s, and this just does not really give anybody a greater feel for its allround performance. Especially when the more challenging games/scenario’s have been avoided so far. I personally do not really need more feedback from Fruit Ninja & TheBlu 5-minute demos, sure, these will blow the people away, but it we are past that point since September.
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asking for too much: no, at this stage, where Pimax say they are generally happy with their design and only have some fine-tuning left before moving into mass production, it is about the question, whether the master they will use for mass production is likely to still have some of the reported serious flaws or not.
Assuming that tracking was not a real issue, but only went wrong with the V5, I would consider the IPD/convergence issue amongst the most serious ones: Pimax today informed us that they only plan on performing some fine-tuning and change to the medium number of IPD. I am not sure 100% what the latter part means, but it sounds as if they will correct the default IPD value which the 8K would have from stock - but that would not really make much difference, if the IPD is adjustable. So perhaps they meant to say increase the range of the IPD ? That would be good (but still not solve the convergence issue unless the IPD adjustment did not work in any of the earlier prototypes incl. V5). Or is it actually saying that the 8K comes with a fixed IPD ? Err, better not be that !
So, with today’s statement, what exactly do we see Pimax do to address this particular issue ? I am not even aware if Pimax have at all acknowledged the convergence/stereoscopic issue to be an issue they are working on - if my memory serves me well, they only referred to the IPD adjustment, and many of us assumed (hoped) that that would resolve the convergence/stereoscopic issue.
So, to be honest, I am a bit concerned here. IPD/convergence, warping/distortions, latency/jittering, sudden blurring (not the softer transition as you would have with a sweet spot in Rift/Vive). These all are issues which could ruin the experience, and I do not see much being stated by Pimax in terms of resolving these. 90 Hz is another one for some of the folks here.
Now where they claim to have the near final build and don’t come back to us on the issues, although they will exactly understand that many expected this update to be giving such feedback, instead inform us that they are going to essentially turn the V5 with a bit of fine-tuning into the production model, should we not be concerned ?
It means that the beta testers will have to be very clear on the points which they feel a re not acceptable for a release version, as opposed to those points which would be great if they could improve them but not a deal breaker. The next road show will not reveal any greater insights, it will be limited demos show-casing the strengths of the 8K.
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From roadToVr :
“If Pimax plans to meet the quality bar set by headsets like the Rift and Vive,
we don’t expect to see the headset launch before mid-2018, in order to
give the company time to finalize their design, tune up outstanding
issues, and sort out manufacturing issues which always seem to crop up
during initial production. Kickstarter backers of the headset could see
beta/prototype versions delivered in small batches prior to mid-2018,
however it’ll likely take some back and forth between backers and Pimax
before the headset is truly ready for open sale.”
And what about 90Hz ?
Thanks for the update and new timeline.
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Some perspecive:
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The CES 2018 demo worked at 80Hz, don’t expect anything new until mars
Maybe you miss… on the bottom of the update
Q: The progress of refresh rate?
A: We will reach a conclusion on March.
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IMO, that is a fob off to keep people quiet. They are mass producing in March which means no changes can get in that M1 batch as resources and stock would be purchased already. Even if they get a new part that allows 90Hz they would have to test it all over again, then mass purchase the updated part and change the production to a new M2 batch. The time it takes for all that is not my area but I assume it is not something that can be done mid process on the M1?
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Not really, Rift was ordered in the hundreds of thousands and Oculus was extremely inexperienced in terms of production and logistical neccessities at that point.
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I am worried about the fact that they don’t mention the 90Hz in this progess Update and Timeline.
Just a" Q&A"
But it’s understandable that if they can’t manage this issue, it’s hard to talk about it.
I feel that in two months we will be back to where we are today and then, be in a more complicated situation.
Then people will have the choice to have an unfinished headset in Q2 or waiting for an HYPOTHETICAL 90Hz and functional version in Q4.
At this point of the design, the slightest problem can have big consequences (overheating, performances, weight, ergonomics issues etc.)
May hope be with us
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Sorry to been grim, but another delay is not impossible… if the current chip suffer overheating and under spec performance it’s possible (I didn’t say probable…) Pimax can’t answer this now … mars is only in 1 month
And like LEFRANCAIS said we could be ask to choose between a 80hz headset now or something else along the road… pure speculation here…
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Sure it is pure speculation, or not…
But the best manner to avoid an issue is to predict it and talk about it 
Honestly I’m losing faith in Pimax… They had promised an update, but all we get is some useless timeline ? WTF ??? Come on @deletedpimaxrep1 you can do better. What I had hoped is that you’d went to all of the CES criticism that journalists and the public put out and that you would discuss it, point by point. This is a great starting point: http://community.openmr.ai/t/summary-of-known-issues-with-pimax-8k-5k-hmd-v5-that-needs-fixing/5073
You could discuss each point, tell us if you could replicate the problem or that it isn’t even a problem according to you, or the team is researching it, might even have a fix already etc etc etc.
But no, nothing. What worries me even more is that you’re claiming to be ‘very close to delivery’ and talking about Q2. And this sentence is just hallucinating: " It’s been very encouraging to hear from press and community that have tested the latest version, and that they feel we’re almost there" SAY WHAATTT ???
Ok, I’m really losing hope here now. I thought Pimax could change but I’m now confident nothing changed. They’re going to release a half-baked product, just like they did with the Pimax 4k. It will take them over a year of software updates to get it to a level that it’s somewhat usable but even then it won’t live up to the expectations most had when they bought the product.
It’s quite sad. I know it’s great Pimax even tries, while others don’t, but still … this product had so much potential, now I’m getting more and more convinced it will never reach that potential.
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Hi if this update gives you too much irrelevant information, my apology, but we want to let people know the context / what changed after v2 and the reason we made the changes.
We will certainly share the issue list and the progress.
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I hope so Xunshu. Everything from your posts breathes that you guys want to make us believe that the CES reviews were actually good and now are moving onto M1. I think it would make much more sense to acknowledge the issue’s and talk about V6, V7, V8 and not “M1” and not “delivery in Q2”. RoadToVR said that if you guys want to deliver quality you at least need to delay until H2, which makes a lot of sense given the wide range of issue’s that people found during CES. So all this really doesn’t promise anything good, I’m really getting the impression you guys are planning to rush this thing out ASAP, just like you did with the Pimax 4k. The Pimax 4k had huge potential but it never lived up to it due to the hardware limitations/bad design choices. I’m really getting afraid now that the Pimax 8k will go down the exact same road.
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If you are so unhappy maybe you should go make your own bleeding edge VR headset.
OH WAIT YOU CAN’T? Right, maybe you should just chill out and WAIT FOR IT TO BE FINISHED.
FFS…
Let’s be realistic for a second here, you people freaking out over these little issues should have never pledged for the 8K.
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What kind of response is this? We’re not allowed to tell the truth? Please stop being such a fanboy and stop dictating your reality. Thanks.
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