Presentation (you can omit it and go directly to the points and the conclusion)
Hello everyone,
I am new to this forum, although I have been following this project for about 2 years. Since that time I searched Google for the possible existence of an HMD with a 4K screen. I discovered that there was already one and it was called Pimax 4K. After a lot of research I realized the number of followers behind it and I was following the improvements and modifications made in it both the company and users at the software and lens level. When I first heard about StarVR, the first headset with 5K horizontal resolution thanks to its extreme FOV similar to that of human vision, but this was a very early prototype, not to mention that its progress has been kept very secret in several stages of its development until now that it is practically finished. Not long after, I learned about the existence of Pimax 8K and the success of its Kickstarter campaign. It was love at first sight. Since then I follow this forum and all its publications ± interesting at a technological level and general information. I have to admit that I did not know anything about VR and I have learned a lot from VR in general and from screens, lens and pixel types and distributions. What has led me to finally register in this forum is to try to create a serious and absent publication of haters, trolls and people who comment without having read a single comment, which is the cause of hundreds of repeated comments and questions already answered previously. And for all that I have been able to see and read from tests and reviews, what has remained ± clear is the following:
Main points
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We already know about the type of screens of the 2 HMDs, their pixel arrangement and their contrast levels and blacks (8K better blacks and better color fidelity, Pimax 5K better “sharpness” by the native resolution of the input signal and panels)
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For the information for some people that are repeated in the comments making this forum tired at this point, both have the distortion in the outer and inner edges of the lenses, which I think is difficult to solve by software given its degree/level of distortion, because for nothing this is slight. This and the “black dots” can not be solved with a 2080Ti or a 5280Ti. It’s a physical issue of the lens and I doubt they can make some lenses that solve it for now and at this point.
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I also see it complicated that they can fix the level of blacks in the 5K without interfering in the overall brightness of the panel. I think it’s a matter of the technologies that use the one or the other.
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What I do worry about is the 8K blur, having enough pixels to look equal, if not better, than the 5K, maybe a bit worse, but in no way as exaggerated as in this 8K. Blame the scaler or whatever (I’m not an expert on scalers), but I bought a Samsung TV 7 series 40-inch 2018 and the quality of scaling from 1080p resolution is amazing, I can not say if it looks the same or better than native resolution in a panel 1080i but not worse. There are several theories of why this blur, of which I am more convinced is the persistence of pixels and X colour that show when they should show Y or N colour. Look at the numbers of the instruments on the airplane and the white background what I do know is that it should be possible to fix it with software, it is a bad management of the image in terms of representation or re-interpretation of the pixels on screen from a source of lower resolution.
Yes it is true that you can not compare what we will see with our eyes at an optimal distance from the lenses and the screens with some photos and videos with a zoom level of 300% since our eyes could not see the pixels. If so, we would not need microscopes.
A silly example would be to analyse our arm with a zoom level of 1000x and see the cells, or even the atoms. It’s stupid! At the end this is not what we see when we look at our arm only using our eyes.
Conclusion:
I firmly believe that we should focus on solving these problems in the image of the 8K since it is the flagship that gives name to the Kickstarter project and the others (5K and 8K-X are other alternatives, both cheaper and more expensive), since that the 5K has already been completely refined at the hardware level and the 8K does not need it because of the margin it has with its 4K screens. Once solved this point they will be able to focus in the 8K-X of which its base is the 8K.
I do not think at all that people choose the 8K because it is more “soft” the image, because it looks worse than expected and can be improved, I think, relatively easily by software, or those who recommend “to death” the 5K for its sharpness of image with respect to 8K (@mixedrealityTV). But people, if it has SDE and its panels offer less contrast, less black levels and less fidelity of colours. What I would have to worry about is that the 8K is improved to a decent level, that for something is the star and it can eat the 5K as it should be from the beginning. A little bit of logic and coherence.
Well, said that, I hope I have not exceeded with this post, that is quite long, and that you know that the draft I wrote from a smartphone at 2:00 am yesterday with 2 canutes and 2 cocktails waiting to get up at 9:00 to see the MotoGP or F1 race and you can imagine the effort and the desire that I had to leave this written to go to sleep and that I did not forget.
I hope this post makes a bit of summary and gives to understand what a person who has no idea of ​​RV can learn by reading (something that some do not deign to do) this forum and collect information of general interest and offer other points of view to try to improve this project, whose HMD 8K has absorbed me for years and I want to acquire once it goes out to the consumer market and that it eats all others, including 5K+. Enough of complaints, personal attacks (sjefdeklerk and Heliosurge) and absurd comments or trolls. Only intelligent discussions with the intention of improving this product, since once arrived at this point and all that the people of Pimax have achieved, their official beta testers and the willingness and interesting contributions of the people in general, would be a real shit that would stay half-way.
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Thank you for taking the time to read this extensive text.
PD: Sorry for the use of a translator but I don’t speak/write English very well, and it has helped me to express myself in a meaningful way in this long text. I hope it is understood minimally, because I have corrected it as well as I could once translated.
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