Announcements are easy to say. I’m not at all impressed by it. pimax should think twice and act once. I am not convinced of the products. Reliability + quality convince more than any announcement.
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to quote myself
They should not make a product that will allmost make their flagship 8Kx (obsolete) in terms of clarity
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Hmm a bit of a weird topic indeed. I almost can’t believe the Pimax CEO would start such topic to thrash talk the competition. So I’m assuming that it’s a topic to get honest idea’s about if there’s interest in a small FoV with high resolution. So in that case let me tell you why I ordered the G2 (I’ve also ordered the 8kX)
- I hate distortion, I rather have smaller FoV without distortion than bigger FoV with distortion
- Supposedly the colors are really good, which is really important to me
- We all want high resolution
- Supposedly there is (almost) no mura
- Supposedly there are (almost) no godray’s
- It has 90 hz (I’d even like to have 120 hz though but oh well)
- I am expecting the software to work flawlessly, without hundreds of options to configure
So we’ll see which headset I like more. But as long as there are enough pro’s, next to the big downside of lower FoV, then I think such headset has a reason to exist
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yeah, for the G2 to be obsolete there has to be another headset that actually works available, I already tried the 8KX and its been designed for people with big heads and/or flat faces, its doesn’t work for people with average sized heads and average distanced IPD (which is what I have on both counts)
low frame rate is also not very pleasant
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If they utilize ~95 % pixels from existing 8k panels ( or new iteration) in 125 FOV it will be hell of improvement and Reverb G2 killer. Thats why Pimax wrote “4k per eye , 125 FOV and aspherical lenses” They only need to prepare new lenses. And if they give us 125 FOV horizontaly then its still more than Index and close to Artisan
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2kx2k=4k easy math. …
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For me “Does 4K per eye” = 4k panels = 3840x2160 pixels per eye
Otherway how to make G2 obsolete …
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This is a stupid thread from the founder.
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A new “Wow, look at this and forget the other” from márketing?
No, thanks. Already been there.
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I think It is a mistake with wording as to what is meant. As he mean 4k for combined eyes
I think he mean Artisan 8k version (2x4k). Lets not argue . Probably we will know soon. 
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If I understood this correctly as an enquiry of interest for a future Pimax product, then I think it won’t render the G2 obsolete in any case, because it won’t compete with the G2 but with the next generation of headsets.
I think lenses wouldn’t have to compromise so much when the FoV were smaller and I would see it positive if more of the resolution could go into clarity then, which I personally consider even more relevant than FoV for both immersion and practical usability.
A few weeks ago I would have said that such a product might only be viable for the enthusiast market - because of the hardware needed to drive this alone. Now that a 3070 seems to be fine for driving 2x4k, something like that might indeed also be interesting to a broader audience.
If great displays, lenses and build quality would not be possible in a low price segment then I’d rather prefer not to compromise too much on these aspects, put in what makes sense and make sure it’s solid and a good out of the box experience - then I think there would be sufficient numbers of people interested.
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There would be no point to an Artisan 8k; the 8kX is 4k/eye. As he is refering to g2 it is more likely he means 4k headset. But as you said no need to turn it into a debate. @PimaxVR can maybe clarify.
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Seems to forget that the FOV ratio H/V must be about the same of the panels for 100% panel utilization. 125:110 don’t equate to 16:9 for actual panel. This new headset would need new panels to be a “G2 obsoleter”
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I agree with everything in your list… what I quoted was one of the biggest reason for me. But as someone who has also pre-ordered the G2… I would add:
. The ability to use both the Windows Mixed Reality controllers and the Valve controllers I received with my Pimax. I also like the Mixed Reality Flashlight ability with WMR controllers and camera’s.
. Not having to spend so much time tweaking an HMD when visitors to my home wants to try my VR
. Once the HP product arrives… it’s done. I won’t be waiting endlessly for other items that were promised!
. I never owned an HMD that could flip up before.
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A Transportable Headset is also a nice to have
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Yes… i missed that one. thank you!
2 SEK (…or DKK if you insist on money with value) says what you are proposing is essentially what OP is suggesting. :7
…which of course would mean a lot of unused space in the same-shell-as-the-160-degree-series (just like in the Artisan, presumably), and no more resolution (…as in PPD), than the 8kX.
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Hi jojon
long time no see 
Sure Swedish currency is just fine (just add %) 
Yes that is essentially what the OP was trying to phrase.
But my suggestion was as I wrote, make aspherical lenses for the 8Kx. I that way current owners (people who bought the HMD) but may not have received it yet could “upgrade” to lower FOV with higher clarity.
And make the available for purchase as upgrade parts 
and Pimax could then make a version with low FOV if needed from the factory.
Making sense now (you already knew what I meant) 
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Pretty much… I suppose we have little enough faith in Pimax’s factory calibration, that user-swapped lenses wouldn’t be that much of a worry… 
…or, were you really ok with immitigatable distortions, and ridiculous weight and bulk, and with toying with stuff yourself, expecting no return, I have here in front of me a rough 3D-printed test holder for just two pairs of commonly available off-the-shelf glass lenses (…just noodling around idly, because of how annoyed I am with everybody persisting with fresnels :P; One 77mm +10 closeup photo lens, sandwiched together with one 75mm magnifying glass lens, per eye), which at a rough estimation, with twice the canting of the Pimaxes (which my face shape allows for), seems like it could give me something close to 180 degrees total, 100-ish stereo overlap (without display panels overlapping), and something like 130 degrees vertical. Ahem: The lenses alone weigh 400g. 
Still, I am tempted to order a pair of cheap LCD panels off Aliexpress, and bolt them onto the thing, just for the hell of it, and just to see them light up, even though I could never put together any drivers for the piece of junk; With the relatively weak magnification, it seems panels 11 by 11 cm per eye would fill its full FOV, and appear pretty acceptably sharp edge-to-edge, given well-compromised canting in addition to that of the lenses. :7
(One of the lenses is missing in the right hand hole)
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