My main goal is to hopefully replace the monitor with a VR goggle, but currently I can’t even read some text on my desktop using bigscreen at the moment. Could someone who tested the pimax 5k+ or 8k tell me if pimax can read text on desktop icon?
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Pretty sure it still isn’t ready for that yet. I have a Pimax 4K and although it’s very good, I wouldn’t want to work like that. Things are readable but not without effort.
But I would love to hear from a tester too
True, but it might be viable on an 8KX, with full 4K resolution.
or maybe another way to phase it…can I read text from the goggle?
and while I’m at it, personally for me, readability > SDE…we all know 8k have less SDE, but which one can read text easier? or are they about the same?
your real problem will be bruised face. that thing is huge!
I tried especially this (with Big Screen) during the meeting and found it ok to use for many use cases. Not sure about the icon thing though, as this will depend on the set resolution.
Also, will still have some dynamic aliasing due to movement and interpolation for perspective.
I found the 8k looked a bit better since the color changes on the edge of the letters aren‘t that annyoing. I would think this was because of more subpixels resulting in more full color groups.
There might also be a bit of warping going on (during wider head movements) between the central lens area and the outer parts which is especially visible with a regular structure like tect underneath.
That said, I am not sure if it‘s a good idea to use the headset for long times while staring at text lines 
Also not sure about the climate conditions underneath the headset. The planned active ventilator addon might help here though.
On a side note: I got really dizzy when using the 8k with Big Screen but that might have been because of a misconfig‘ed workstation which resulted in a visble tracking lag. Still trying to figure out what the „normal“ lag on the 8k (from the scaler) would be in comparison to the non-scaling 5k Plus.
Anyway, for me these were the first headset that I would try for that use case, which was really cool to see.
not the desktop which is designed for monitors…
dont change the headset, change the desktop…
windows10.1 will have a VR ready desktop… similar to tablet desktop is not same as windows10/8
We’ve heard it’s actually quite light. Lighter than the Vive atleast.
I am not sure I saw your recap of your experience at the meetup - would you mind writing it down for us as to get more information for all the backers who were not able to attend, or didn’t use the programs you used ? This is the first time I see someone reporting about Big Screen, if my memory serves me well. It would be great to read your thoughts about the 8K and 5K+.
I am not sure I saw your recap of your experience at the meetup - would you mind writing it down for us as to get more information for all the backers who were not able to attend, or didn’t use the programs you used ? This is the first time I see someone reporting about Big Screen, if my memory serves me well. It would be great to read your thoughts about the 8K and 5K+.
Well, I only was there for half an hour or so, since i was plagued by a fierce tooth ache that weekend and wasn‘t as focused as I planned 
. So I basically only did what I described here, tried the headsets for five mins and chose Big Screen as the testing grounds to get text content onto the screen.
I haven‘t come to read/view all the recaps, yet. I’ll gladly add to it if I see something that wasn‘t mentioned, but I think it would basically mean copying the last post over 
if the spanish testers get their way down the line and set up lower fov higher ppd lenses then probably.
Might not be light anymore lol. Its in the same ballpark as the Vive it seems.
I am buying the 5K+ for business use. I need to see three active spreadsheets simultaneously. Pimax looks like the best available solution.
A 24" 1080p (FullHD) monitor in 1 m distance has about 63 ppd (pixel per degree). (Viewing angle is about 30 degrees)
A 27" 2160p (UHD) monitor in 1 m distance has about 112 ppd.
And for the 5k+, if we assume 100° binocular overlap, 170° FoV and horizontal 2560 pixel per panel, we get an effective resolution of 3224 pixel over 170° - or about 19 ppd.
For a 8kX you would get 3840 pixel per panel horizontal resolution and thus 4836 pixel effective horizontal resolution (again with 100° overlap), and thus 28 ppd.
To get the same pixel density per degree as a FullHD 24" screen from 1m distance, your 170° FoV HMD would need a horizontal resolution of 10710 pixel (or 8505 per panel with 100° overlap).
Resolution of the human eye is (depending on person and viewing distance) about 1-2 degree-minutes, and thus 60-30 ppd.
Long story short: Still some way until an HMD can replace a monitor regarding sharpness. Particularly Pimax is using the resolution of the panels to increase FoV, not ppd. You cannot have it all - yet
Edit: Sorry, initial values were bs, used vertical instead of horizontal resolution…
Edit2: Not sure whether the 5k+ now uses 100% of the panels. If not the ppd is further reduced - afaik for the 8k you have to multiply with 0.8 for 80% screen usage.
Another way to put it: A 24" 16:9 monitor from 1m away with the 19 ppd of the 5k+ would have about 580 pixels horizontally (430 pixels if you use a 4:3 resolution with black borders left and right or a 19.6" 4:3 screen) - so between CGA (320) and VGA (640). This should allow to simulate the effekt.
Some decades ago monitors with these resolutions were usual. But most of the time the screen sizes were smaller, so e.g. a back-then usual 15" 4:3 VGA monitor from 1m away would already be > 35 ppd again.
So, can a 5k+ replace a monitor - sure, question is - which
P.S.: One thing that is not considered here: The overlap mainly provides depth information, probably it also adds some resolution information though, as it isn’t strictly “the same pixel from another perspective”. Cannot easily say how much information is still going into resolution. So the perceived resolution of the 5k+ is probably somewhere between 2560*170/(100 + (170-100) / 2)= 2560 * 1.26 = 3223 and 2560 * 2 = 5120 - and thus above 19 ppd but definitely below 30 ppd.
With our monitor 24" 1m away analogy it would be about 580 pixels horizontal for 19 ppd and about 910 pixels horizontal for 30 ppd. Probably closer to the first than the latter, but I cannot really say.
I’d say no, but not for the reasons you’d expect. The biggest issue with all these dang headsets is you can’t view the entire bios with them. This missing feature has caused me so much pain and anguish you have no idea. If I could see the dang bios, I would need to lug a large computer up flights of stairs to plug it into my tv to see the bios.