Improve Lens Clarity - Pimax Vision 8kX - Lens Coating with Nanofixit

FYI: I placed an order with Nanofixit a few weeks ago, but I still haven’t received anything.

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Thanks again. I used some of the Plexus on my 5k+ lenses, and it seems to be quite effective. I did have to gently wipe of the heavy grease one time before applying the Plexus for best results, and I think the Nanofixit product resulted in slightly better clarity, slightly less chromatic aberration, etc.

Might be worth using Nanofixit once, then using Plexus. I have yet to try that though, as I will only use the Plexus on my 8kX lenses, on top of the Nanofixit I applied, after they really need more cleaning.

@Octofox Woah, benzene is really bad stuff! I wonder how much. While I like the Plexus for cost effectiveness, I might be a lot more careful about where or even if I use it knowing that.

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That P65 Warning is pretty much applied to every product in California, but it might be a more legitimate concern for this product.

Is Benzene that bad?

Maybe it would be safer to spray it outside rather than indoors.

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Update check out this safety precautions listed on a data sheet I found:

Prevention

P101+P102+P103: If medical advice is needed, have product container or label at hand. Keep out of reach of children. Read label
before use.
P210: Keep away from heat, hot surfaces, sparks, open flames and other ignition sources. No smoking.
P211: Do not spray on an open flame or other ignition source.
P251: Do not pierce or burn container, even after use.
P261: Avoid breathing vapors/spray
P264: Wash hands thoroughly after handling.
P271: Use only outdoors or in a well-ventilated area
P273: Avoid release to the environment.
P280: Wear protective gloves and eye protection.

Looks like you’ll need to use it outdoors wearing a partial hazmat suit lol.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.plexusplasticcleaner.com/pdf/plexus-safety-data-sheet.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiVyL_er5TtAhWKGDQIHUXRBzYQFjABegQICRAF&usg=AOvVaw2A4-qs-po1b4Q6mV6lDoTg

@yakpilot Why did you lie to me?

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Isn’t it common sense to apply it in a well-ventilated area using gloves and eye protection? :slight_smile:

That’s the stuff they have to write. It’s not much different then any other spray-on chemicals is it? :slight_smile:

“Apply in a tiny cardboard box with no ventilation whatsoever… Or else…” :smiley:

I’m not saying I would adhere to their precautions. I’m just saying that it’s probably the same precautions as a lot of other products if You actually read it (guilty as charged… I rarely do)… :wink:

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So far, I would suggest at least not touching the liquid chemical, nor touching a rag wet with it. Skin contact with benzene is probably the major risk, if anything is.

Depends on how much, but generally yes. Benzene is one of the few things that is basically unavoidable in everyday life, but even smallest relative quantities of which is expected to linearly increase mortality. Benzene is naturally found in gasoline, as a byproduct of most combustion, etc. IIRC, benzene one of the most harmful chemicals in cigarette smoke, and the reason ‘second-hand smoking’ is considered such a big problem.

Most of the MSDS warnings here seem to deal with the hazards of the LP propellant, which is typical of all aerosol cans. MSDS sheets are often excessively cautious, warning of any known risk, no matter how small.

P280: Wear protective gloves and eye protection.

This is the one line of the MSDS that gives me some cause for concern. Skin contact with benzene is very likely what this line is about.

So at least avoid that.

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Explicitly mentioning the product contains benzene, AFAIK, is very unusual for any product made in last several decades. The line about wearing protective gloves is somewhat unusual for an MSDS, IIRC.

Both of these things together, and the fact that Plexus is a niche product for highly specialized use where the benefits of such chemicals may indeed outweigh any risks, leads me to suspect there are indeed non-trivial quantities of benzene.

Try not to get this stuff on your hands, breathe it directly, etc. Use sparingly, one spray directly on the lenses, wipe off, and take additional precautions for larger applications. Should be fine with such reasonable precautions, but I am of course not responsible if that advice is less than adequate…

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I wasn’t referring to that part… :wink:

I specifically said the following:

Might be. Question is if it’ll be an issue after it’s been applied or not.

There’s a lot of stuff we touch in our daily life that’s coated/treated with stuff that’s really, really bad for You (but not an issue after it’s been applied).

Exactly… :wink:

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Once it is sprayed and buffed, do the chemicals dissolve into the lenses and are no longer harmful to your health when using the headset regularily? That would be my main concern.

At this point I’m regretting my Amazon purchase and wish I could cancel it while its already on the way. Even on Amazon they needed extra time due to needing to handle the package more safely.

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No, it is not. Benzene evaporates very quickly, is not going to stick around, and if any part of it did combine with the plastic, it would almost certainly be a much less harmful compound.

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Once sprayed and buffed, it is highly unlikely anything harmful will remain. For one thing, if any coating is left behind, it will be only a few microns thick at most, and will not be offgassing much.

Gasoline is probably just as harmful. The smell of gasoline is actually mostly the smell of benzene, and the airborne concentrations at most gas stations are considered acceptable. I didn’t smell that when spraying this stuff.

Liquid benzene, just like liquid gasoline, on your hands, is a much greater cause for concern. Avoid that.

I would not worry about it that much. Spray it close to the lenses, wipe lenses with one side of a rag, put the rag out of your play area while it dries. Should be fine.

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Would a clean microfiber cloth suffice? I would probably throw it away after single use. Hopefully I wouldn’t need to reapply the spray too often to maintain the lenses in the future.

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Yes, but that is wasteful. I have found an old moderately fine fabric dishtowel works fine. Being so large, there is plenty of room for reuse before washing. And for my 5k+, I will probably be using Plexus Plastic Cleaner before or after every time I use the headset for roomscale stuff (sweat, grease, etc).

Do not use paper towels. Don’t know why, but the product is specifically labeled not to. Also do not use any cloth with any lint or that may be coarse enough to cause scratching.

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The main reason I bought the Plexus cleaner is it seems easier to apply than the Nanofixit solution. Maybe that’s just because your video is an hour long and I don’t have the patience to watch it all lol.

Nanofixit does sound much safer though. Wonder how effective one is vs the other.

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Both products officially should be applied somewhat carefully, albeit for different reasons. My video is excessively long because of my abundance of caution ensuring that if there was any benefit to Nanofixit, I would find it.

I suspect the Plexus Plastic Cleaner will be easiest and best, but I have yet to test applying it on top of the Nanofixit coating already applied to my 8kX. Since that is in theory a glass surface now, and the 8kX is so high resolution, it may be the ultimate test of the product…

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So the Plexus Plastic Cleaner arrived today in an Amazon package with no external warning labels attached to the package. I open it and there is a lot of empty space, The can is not secured. The lid was removed and I could see a black substance on the spray nozzle. Also there’s a small crack on the lid. Clearly the package wasn’t handled very well. Either that or someone accidentally sprayed it and they had to repackage it.

Either way, I don’t feel safe using it. I didn’t feel safe even before it was going to be delivered after learning more about it’s toxicity. So I will likely dispose of it. I have an order for Nanofixit VR glasses protector instead which I’m waiting for.

Also Amazon issued a refund after I explained what happened. They don’t accept returns of flammable material.

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Wow. My package arrived in flawless condition. You might try ordering again.

If you take the can outside and hose it off, it should be safe. You probably took more of a risk already just handling it first.

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FYI, beware of Nanofixit. I ordered a package back in Oct … it never shipped and they did not answer numerous requests for a status update. I opened a dispute with PayPal and received a refund through them.

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I’m still waiting. I haven’t contacted them, but I really should.

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