They say $999 for the 57PPD. Why would you even bother with the 50PPD for an extra $399???
Makes no sense and Pimax take something simple and make it hard.
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You go to the Cart and add the Crystal Super and you get this.
Something is broken and its another HMD botch launch.
Iâm thinking the FOV is essentially unchanged with the Super then? They are still saying 120 horizontal.
130 degrees FOV
Itâs worth trying out. Iâve tried a few different iterations of the Mx. Itâs very light and the facial interface keeps all the light out. The display of all the samples i tried was super clear.
As all headsets do it does have some downsides (at least the samples did). It generated a sweat line in a circle around my face right where that interface touches and this fogged it up. Also it was quite warm to the touch, especially on the top of it.
The first one i tested a while back had a smallish fov and it was super dim brightness. Each time both of those were improved the next iteration i saw. Iâd guess its almost exactly 100h now. (varies by user though). I couldnât see the pc interface any of them were using.
Itâs essentially distortion free but last one i tried still slightly on the dim side. I asked if that could be adjusted and it couldnt at the time.
I imagine a lot of people will like the visor style though they may not like the material that seals with your face. I hope itâs a popular device as itâs a different take on vr that might draw more people to the platform.
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Actually in the video above, at 26:17, the specs are 120 degrees for the 57ppd QLED optical engine, 100 degrees for the micro-OLED engine, and 135 degrees for the 50ppd QLED engine.
I had only seen the 120 degrees for the 57 ppd engine before.
Considering the problems with the original Crystalâs wide FOV lenses, it will be interesting to see how this turns out. Binocular overlap for example.
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I hope another roadshow will come along or Seb will eventually have all three at his HQ and I can try them there.
I would be most interested in the 50 PPD version to get a 135 FoV, b/c 50 PPD in my view is already more than enough and I expect diminishing returns above that, while the FoV is still an area needing substantial improvement.
It seems Pimax are in a position to attend CES 2025 in better shape, hopefully with all three models. Just hoping itâs not another commercial âlaunchâ as the o.g. Crystal launch which was followed by 6+ months of delays.
I am curious to read/hear if this modular approach works out well. The sole lens swapping approach at the end did not pan out, so they clearly learned that they needed to view it more holistically and get the entire optical flow and its components dialed in.
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Iâm just a bit disappointed the Super will be using DP1.4 rather than 2.1
I hope this doesnât mean Pimax isnât working with and on a DP2.1 HMD, itâll be the only way a 12k could be viable.
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Indeed. So now theyâre gong even crazier and swap out the whole optical block and expect people to buy another at more expense. Doesnât make much sense to me.
Nobody wants these swapping features they just want one, a high res high FOV HMD. The 8KX did it so Iâm baffled why Pimax are stumbling with this while they burn through their $60million.
Nobodyâs asking for a swappable Optical block. Nobodyâs asking for 12k so why the heck are they making them headsets? 180FOV at 4k per eye whould have us all ginning from ear to ear. So why are Pimax hell bent on Portal, this Wireless module? 12K? Swappable lenses? Swappable optical blocks?
The 8KX is 5 years old youâd think theyâd have the 8KX MK 2 out by now.
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I like the idea that pimax crystal super has 135 horizontal fov almost like the pimax 8kx normal fov mode. But it isnât display port 2.1 so it isnât future proof for the next generation rtx 5090 or beyond. I donât like the idea that you canât swap lenses from 57ppd to 50ppd they promised us they do that just like the Crystal. Do they realy think we can buy all that stuf for that amount of money. The hole idea of swappebel was to make The headsets cheaper. Now I feel pimax just want to use us as cash cows and I donât like that. I would have bought the pimax crystal super but now I rather wait for the 12k or something different.
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@PimaxQuorra Can I try the Pimax Crystal Super at CES 2025 in vegas ? I am not a reporter or journalist . Normal guy 
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Man 50 PPD will be awesome! The current 34 PPD that my AVP has already makes me long for higher PPD. Itâs not about seeing pixels anymore, you wonât see those on the AVP. If an object is close by, then 34 PPD already is like âperfectâ vision already. But in the distance (5-6 meters away) you can definitely see itâs not human vision yet. Yesterday Apple released Rayeâs âConcert for oneâ, if she sings close to the camera, things look really perfect already but when sheâs 5-6 meters away I miss details.
Great to see Pimax is pushing the envelope again! Getting close to the human vision now!
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Another question is if it will be a 50+PPD headset or a 35PPD headset with ability to do 55PPD DFR, like XR4. Because if that will be the case, then I am not sure if it even will be any better than VR1 in most of the titles
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Of course it will be like the XR4 and thatâs because, just like the XR4, they are using DP1.4, the highest compression ratio DSC can provide AND QuadViews.
There is literally no other way to get the pixels required through that bottleneck of an IO - hence why I wonât buy another PCVR HMD that isnât using full-fat DP2.1 (not the AMD version). The XR-4 is beautiful and I enjoy using it but DSC at that level makes it an unstable compromise and QuadViews is a hard limit on the supported titles. Itâs just too much workaround for a viable solution.
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The fillfactor will be very high though so it might look better than vr1 and maybe they achieve they 57 ppd via the lense
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Yes, the fillfactor will be great and the XR-4 shows just how well this works with lower resolutions. So on that front that Super is a great option as an alternative (and a way cheaper one at that) to the XR-4.
As far as going beyond 35ppd on a PCVR HMD with an hFOV of 90 degrees and upwards combined with a viable vHOF, the DP1.4 IO is the hard limit.
All the just below 3kx3k panels just about work with that IO (XR-/VR3, Aero, Crystal, Somnium v1). Once you go beyond it you kinda do need that native bandwidth and Varjo is currently finding that out the hard way (to be fair, it isnât fun for the customers either).
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35 ppd is already astonishing but 4312Ă5104 per eye is very taxing on current GPU, we will benefit from next generation Nvidia GPU, but at high cost from early reports
PCVR you can never bring enough firepower to the fight so Iâll be first in the queue for the 5090 
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Yes 4312Ă5104 barely runs in alyx with my Somnium vr1 . I got dips to 45 fps sometimes in demanding areas which is immersion breaking . We really need faster Gpus.
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Of course! Iâll also be attending CES. Letâs plan to meet up.
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Here you go. A successor of the 8KX, maybe based on Crystal. Rather less resolution but more FoV. more ergonomic features like crystal has.
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