Half-Life: Alyx on 8K X

The reason people put so much into what Sebastian is saying is because he is the only outlet we have for information right now. Until someone makes a video from a different perspective with a different opinion we only have his experience to judge our decision from. it would be nice if more people with the 8kX could make some reviews of alyx or just their experience in general so that peoples purchasing or cancelling decisions weren’t made from a single point of view.

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Yeah it is ashame will have to use our own or hope the DMAS developed quick as the SMAS will not be able to deliver at least on ear quality sound.

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Relax Martin, for me your reviews are the most complete and have a lots of facts than the others, I do not want to offend but Sebastian reviews are most just talking. Keep the ball rolling.

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@SweViver I think there are a lot that care about your opinion or also @VoodooDE s opinion. Sad that both of you have not also made Videos of the current and upcoming devices.
Having 3 or more sources makes it easier to get some Infos and perception of the devices and see what fits one most.

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After reading all this, at least one thing is clear now. There is still distortion and it will be seen differently by each individual. Let’s just hope I won’t be one of those who can easily see it.

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Today night I will dream of a panel discussion held by HMDs, reviewing reviewers.
Elvis might win. To him all headsets were born equal, he never in his life said anything negative about any headset and the prospects that he will continue keeping it that way are very convincing.

Looking forward to read all p/reviews anybody is willing to write!

I’m sure Elvis would be totally stunned if he could look through a VR headset. Any of them.

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True. But also Index has one big problem which many see individualy - very prominent godrays/glare. It should be addressed in Sebs A/B comparisons between headsets as munch as distortions but somehow that issue was missed…

Edit : Also if someone still see distortion at normal fov and saying that becouse of that Alyx is less imersive than for sure small fov ( which btw is wider than Index fov) is distortion free , well at least in my 5k+ 204.

Edit 2 : MRTV Live 1.20.00 Sebs says that he has better expirence at other headsets. Which my brain instantly transformed into “8kx is the worst option to play HL Alyx.” So I can clearly understand that yeh Index 120hz good picture , best audio - why not. But other headsets like HP, Cosmos, Rift S , oh common. If distortions and 75hz was so big problem why not to switch and test upscaled mode or small fov? I missed that tests in your review Sebastian.

Now my conclusion : I can be wrong here but after watching this live stream my guts starts tellings me that this opinion have something to do with personall “frozen” between Martin/Pimax and Sebastian . No ?

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Hmm I still see distortion on my 5k+ on ‘small’

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The main 8kX problem is the lack of availability. All the rest is negligible

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For what it is worth…

I absolutely got accustomed to the distortions of my p5k+, to the point I couldn’t consciously point any of them out.

None the less, when I got my Index, there was no way back; It gave me a level of natural sense of room and proper scale (yep: That enigmatic “presence”), that I had never experienced with the p5k+, no matter how I positioned it – for every part of the view - not just the periphery; And even though my desperate cravings for more FOV, ever since my Rift DK1, are as strong as ever, they were not enough to outbalance that.

Here’s hoping that the added resolution of my eagerly awaited 8kX is enough to tip the scales back, and that the calibration equipment Pimax has since acquired, will have been put to good use, improving the geometric verity, as claimed (I still wonder why we haven’t seen the supposed better distortion correction trickle back to the older models, given, we were just a few posts back authoritatively informed, they do indeed have the exact same optics as the newer ones, just as suspected).

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I have to admit I couldn‘t help but think the same - his preference seems to be depending to an unhealthy degree on the status of his relationship to Pimax at such a moment.

In addition I sense that he actually doesn‘t mind to stir the pot from time to time - more controversy, more clicks.

Not that journalists are generally different, see the recent exposure of UploadVR having turned into effectively an Oculus promotion agency, but in average they tend to tread more carefully and preserve their independence and calm objectiveness to a greater degree.

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I must have missed something. What calibration equipment? Do you have a link to this?

Afraid not, but a quick search on “calibration @PimaxUSA” returns these two most recent results:

https://community.openmr.ai/t/manufacturing-discrepency-in-panel-lense-placement-could-be-the-cause-of-eyestrain-and-distortion-affecting-some-headsets/22338/4?u=jojon

https://community.openmr.ai/t/pimax-8kx-testing-progress-december-20-2019/24546/291?u=jojon

Now; Here it is specifically stated that the machinery was not used for the units demonstrated at recent events (and in this case it looks to be about automated quality assurance in the production line (EDIT: …and by now used already with older models), as opposed to an engineering device, for development), but there was certainly a lot of talk around the time of those shows, about how an oh-so-much-better distortion profile had been produced for the 8kX, along with some, to not put too fine an edge to it, complete and utter BS about how different screen sizes would make it non-backportable. :7

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Your conclusions have no value because they are based on false assertions and premises, I dont know if you do it by mistake or by choice but it is all false.

Sebastian has always said in his videos that Index has more glares than Pimax and others HMD and those who are sensitive to this may prefer to use a Pimax.

Sebastian said that after Index his favorite HMD for playing Alyx is a Pimax … it is simply not 8KX but Artisan.

So Sebastian wants to spite Pimax saying that a Pimax HMD is the best alternative to Index? Needless to repeat the initial part of my comment …

I don’t see that as “spiting” anything. If anything that is good praise considering the Index’s reception and adoption. He cites pros of both and perceived cons.

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of course, mine was an ironic rhetorical question … Some people confuse a HMD with their mom, and take offense if someone makes any criticism …

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Why don’t Pimax just hire Sebastian and then his previews and reviews will be 100 % positive a 100 % of the time :grinning::yum::blush::partying_face::upside_down_face:

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Comments like yours really don’t help - people here are, I think very rationally and calmly, trying to understand the situation all you can do is be offensive!!!

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If someone rationally says false things or is misinformed or influenced by their emotions and not by their rationality.

These kinds of comments definitely don’t help.

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Agreed but I don’t see that here - I see people trying to get their head around the issues pulling together all the information out there and airing their thoughts. It’s a process where not everyone will agree with everyone all the time but after a lot of discussion the result is that people get a more rounded view of the issues.

When you are in a bar discussing a subject with your friends that none of you can be absolutely sure about because all the information is not out there normally each of you will say things that are probably wrong occasionally and your friends will correct you and assuming you don’t get into a blazing argument then you all go home more enlightened. However, likening someone’s view to how they view their mum likely takes down the blazing argument road with no benefit.

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