I would even recommend a possibility to save these settings per user. Some manual ipd dialling might be still needed but that could be presented to the user too when you select a profile.
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Sorry Martin, but he has applied all your suggestionsā¦but with any different result.
Also in his discord he has answered that he has tried but dont see any difference.
Maybe could it be simply a software question that on a more limited FoV at its maximum, produces a different sensation compared to viewers that expand up to 200? he clearly explained that for those who are used to 5k + will not have a worse experience than 8kx.
But it is a fact that many users who switch from Pimax (5k +, 8k ā¦) to Index in a comparison A B, have the feeling of some kind of distortion.
Instead for him, with Artisan this feeling is not there, probably for the slightly reduced FoV, I think you should be happy with this feedback is a positive thing, Artisan is the logical competitor of Index certainly not 8KX which is only for a few super enthusiasts fly simmer
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We have already potato mode to simulate old headsets
What about a new FOV to simulate Artisan ?
You mean Normal FoV? +3Ā° wide FoV is negligible.
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As I understand it, normal FoV of the 8k-X is already āsimulatingā the Artisan. Thatās why people are puzzled. But I agree with @Marco, itās good news for Pimax that the problem isnāt appearing with (Sebās) Artisan for him, so it seems to be possible to get a distortion free headset based on Pimax technology for people like him. Understanding why could help a lot for the entire product palette, not only the Artisan.
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Ok my opinion is Pimax 8K X has better distorsions than Pimax 5k+ / 8k today
as said in the Pimax tour for the small panel
and then there is the famous video of Sebastian with assetto corsa 
however
TO MAKE PERFECT THINGS PIMAX 8K X NEED A NORMAL FOV SLIGHTLY SMALL
This new fov could be negligible smaller compared to normal fov as Heliosurge said but might cut the distorsions some see
I AM OBSERVING THE SUCCESS OF ARTISAN NORMAL FOV, so the new fov might simulate artisan normal fov
Speaking of Sebastian he is making a tragedy with a prototype
LUCKY THAT HE IS AN ENGINEER 
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@mixedrealityTV
Sebastian: I find it baffling that in this thread with >200 posts you never explicitly answered these questions (you said you used all the recommended settings. That sounds to me like you did NOT use the new JSON file).
Could you please elaborate on this, and also on the other points @SweViver tried to assist you with?
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As @Marco said above, it seems that Sebastian has and it did not improve his experience.
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Iām in agreement with hadron here Sebastian. By not explicitly answering the question it comes across that you are trying to wind Martin up but the result is we all suffer with a lack of clear information. I donāt think Matinās tone either is always ideal in that respect but guys just work together - you guys are so important to the VR industry and itās just not good that you donāt seem to be communicating well.
So did you apply the JSON file that Martin suggested?
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āMarco saidā, āit seemsā. You see the problem?
Normal FOV 90/120hz on 8KX please do this @PimaxQuorra
Agreed, the tone might be a little bit more thankfulā¦
If we would imagine how much attention span we would get from e.g. LTT or Tested before they come to their conclusion, Seb jumped through quite some hoops, wrote mails to Pimax whether he did everything right etc.
Itās still about the future of VR as a whole, not only Pimax. (Even Alyx was more a side note on the gaming horizon - with many of the public comments just complaining why it was āmade irrelevantā by making it VR exclusiveā¦) So all help and dedication in the VR community is appreciated!
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Truthfully trying to make Sebastianās review āwrongā is the tragedy. But history often repeats itself. Many did the same over Oscarās and pumcyās reviews. It was interesting that many later had similar experiences and opinions after receiving a headset.
We should just accept his impressions as contrast to the bubblegum impressions.
Simple truth these are initial impressions on a non final model
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The m1 testers were equally baffled when Sweviver was the only one that couldnāt see a particular flaw identified which was clearly there. So simply history repeats itself.
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No, I have yet today no confirmation that the JSON file has been tested.
If someone doesnt see the difference having the JSON file in use and not, then it proves it havent been tested.
Simulate Artisan???
The whole claim that Artisan has better/less distortion than 8KX is just hilarious and completely wrong. Turn on Normal FOV on 8KX and you will get the same FOV as Artisan, but with slightly less distortion on the edges of each side.
I have spent more time than anyone with the 8KX version 3, 4 and 5 and none of them had more distortion than the 5K+ or the Artisan. None of our other testers have seen this distortion which suddenly seems to be the topic of the month, and basically none of our visitors at VRDays, CES and US roadshow even mentioned a word about distortion. In fact, most people said it was improved, which indeed is a fact.
Im as much engineer as MRTV is. On paper. Does it make anyone of us better on analysing distortion? I dont think soā¦
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To be honest, I could not find out what @Fabrizio was trying to say.
But I am quite sure nobody here tries to āwrongā @mixedrealityTV 's preview (I am sure you wanted to say preview, not review). Please do not insinuate otherwise.
Would you agree this applies the 8k+? If so then yes now more of them in the wild there has been reports of distortion. So please relax; just because someoneās impressions do not match yours does not make them wrong. And neither does it quantify your impressions are wrong either.
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Wow, @Heliosurge . You bring quite some toxicity to this discussion. I do not see how this helps anyone.
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Wow. Having in mind you basically had full insight into the m1 beta phase, Im quite baffled to hear this from you today. Let me remind you of who did 90% of the work during the m1 days, sir 
If I wasnt under an NDA, every person in here would know already what really was going on during m1ā¦
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No I meant impressions. And yes there are people trying to say his impressions are incorrect. Maybe you might not be one of them.
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