Eye strain / possible projection issue?

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Less fov lenses suitable for smaller IPD users and 150 fov with less edge distortion would be a great thing, just cut off the near useless and heavily distorted edges of the Pimax lenses where there is no sweet spot and bang theres another extra 10-20mm IPD range.

Also fixing the IPD slider and software to allow manual individual IPD setting to each eye from the one knob would be a great software addition for pitool, along with pitool settings profile saver for each game, for easier plug and play functionality, autodetect to enable parralel projections if required or automatic settings for brainwarp and parralel projections to be enabled for each game unless turned off, to improve compatibility and performance.

Also the much requested colour options - for contrast/saturation/ gamma/sharpness settings, even make colour profiles for gaming, movies, dark content, etc which are different variations of the above colour settings for the less tech savvy users, would make the 5k+ have a better selling point for those concerned about washed out colours.

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Can confirm, my self measured IPD is close to 70. With my Vive, I would set it to 70 and it was perfect. On the Pimax, I have to set my IPD to ~65 in order for everything to converge correctly. The IPD setting on my Pimax also won’t go below 60.

This is definitely an issue for anyone with <65 IPD.

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The problem with even having additional ipd adjustments in software. Like Psvr & other fixed lense headsets too small or 2 wide ipd will still cause eyestrain unfortunately.

Some may need a lense insert using the frame adapter or wear glasses that augment eye’s ipd.

For some yes a lens mod/ replacement might be needed. Ie shaving Nose side of lense for narrow ipd. And shaving ear side of lense for wide ipd.

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Yes. I can wear my 8K for 3-4 hours per session with no headache or eye strain. My face-pad foam is ~14 mm (measured at thickest part) and the headset is comfortable, now that I’ve attached an 11 oz / 310 g counterweight to the back. If I really look for it (turn head quickly), there is some very minor distortion, which I don’t notice at all while playing games. The headset must be precisely positioned; I do notice a bit of smear if it is off center. I generally tweak the headset position once or twice an hour, since it sometimes slips around a little bit.

My self-measured IPD is 63 mm and my headset is at 65 mm, determined by trial and error. I plan to tweak the IPD later, using the image @Heliosurge provided above.

I don’t have access to a different headset, so I can’t compare it.

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I also have an IPD of 62 64 (Really 61.5 63.5) 30.5 31.5 for one eye and 31 32 in the other. I can use the headset set to 62 without issues for over an hour. For example, I played EliteDangerous for an hour today and my eyes felt fine afterward.

So it seems to be more complex than just IPD.

My eyes were also still was uncomfortable playing Skyrim VR until I turned on “Compatible With Parallel Projections” then it felt more comfortable.

Edit: Pulled out my prescription to check. Really have 63.5 IPD. I have the headset set to 62mm though.

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PSVR has a very quality lens, it does not really bother 2 -3 mm difference.

Pimax needs to provide a solution for below 64-65 users.

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What version of PiTool are you using? If you haven’t tried the latest beta, you should do so. I’m not noticing any distortions anymore.

As for the IPD issue, I agree; it’s a definite problem. There seems to be more at play than the actual IPD setting its self, though.

What is everyone using for face padding? I’m using this 12mm thick Vive cover.

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I have the latest beta, just played Vox Machina, with PP distrotions are still their. Probably your IPD is larger than 63 64 or you use a thick facebad, or you play on small or normal fov. I see distortion on normal fov as well, but not a big deal for me.

IPD is the biggest issue for me.

If you’re not using a thicker face pad, you need to get one ASAP. That makes a massive difference with this headset.

Try holding the headset to your face without strapping it on and finding a spot where everything looks proper/comfortable. This is what it took for me to realize that the face padding provided with the headset was way too thin. After replacing with thicker padding, everything is great.

It may also have to do with the angle that the headset is being held to your face; the headstrap that comes with the Pimax isn’t exactly great. That combined with the padding that’s way too thin makes for a bad experience in my opinion.

That would be the best solution.

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Thanks for the suggestion though I already added some more padding to the original pads nose area corners it helped a lot. Will order a thicker facepad for sure as Pimax padding is stiff and not comfortable enough and there are light leaks on the corners.

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No problem, this headset is definitely not easy to get setup. For the first few days I thought I was going to sell it because it made me sick within minutes of playing Beat Saber, so I can totally see how it’s very possible that the experience is as bad as what you’re describing.

I still feel the IPD setting isn’t quite right for me (having an IPD of 70 and setting the Pimax to 65 is the closest I can find to “right”), but it definitely doesn’t make me sick at all (and I play beat saber for several hours at a time). Hopefully this means the issue can be somewhat corrected in software.

Also for reference, I’m very sensitive to VR sickness. If something isn’t right I’ll be sick within minutes, not hours.

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Yeah, my initial impression was very negative too, a big anti-climax followed by a deep depression which I solved by drinking a few days.
Things have gone better since.

Again, same here. Although I don’t get VR sickness or eye strain anymore, I have constantly the feeling that I need to adjust the IPD.

But yeah, def not going back to the Vive

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i have the same with my left eye, its always blurry or messy unless i have the position exactly right i mean like about smaller then 0,1 mm it’s impossible to keep it right. Also i see the end of the lenseborder on the right(left eye middle of the headset) it’s very immersion breaking.
Do more people have this?

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Yes, My right eye is the dominant eye, and the left eye is always out of focus, IF I could get a smaller IPD (lenses closer together) it would be perfect. I can put up with some distortion but the out of focus is a pain in the rear end.

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I tried this bitmap and followed the procedure at https://community.openmr.ai/t/pimax-official-1-0-1-103-beta-test-release-for-brainwarp-1-0/14256/537?u=neal_white_iii

I’m not quite sure how to use this. It’s almost always in focus, unless I set the IPD to the very highest or lowest IPD levels.

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yes thats very tyring for the eye because it keeps trying to focus. For me my dominant eye is blurry

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What is your IPD ?
Try this, IF lets say you IPD is 60, , now set your IPD to 70, Now this is how I see the image in the HMD, so if you have IPD 60 and have it set to 70, if you move you head right the so the left lens is in focus now the right is out of focus, if you now turn your head to the left so that your right eye is in focus the left lens is out of focus. this is why I say the lenses for me at least need to go closer together.
What ever you IPD just set it to high and this is the problem I see, but for most you can just adjust down on IPD, I however can not go lower .

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The pimax 4k uses aspherical lenses & is the same in that regard to psvr. However both still causs eyestrain at narrow ipd & wide ipd. Yes aspherical lenses are better for sweet spot.