Can We Get Acknowledgement of the Pimax Specific RTX 4090 Latency / Lag Issue please?

Long shot. DDU complete removed the driver in safe mode and reinstall?

I always try the newest driver when updating anything for testing. I did so after the Zotac vbios update but it was the same. I then revert back to 522.25 as it is the least laggy.

Yes tried that, no difference

Got an update from Pimax Support apologising they haven’t yet found a solution but are working on it, including talking to other brands with issues specifically HTC.

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I have applied the Zotac VBIOS 1.2 update. I have observed no changes in behavior.

I updated the nVidia driver to 527.56 12/08/2022. Old driver was 526.98 11/16/2022.

Still no observed changes in behavior.

On mine, I’m only getting detectable latency in the SteamVR void. When I’m actually playing a game, there is no discernable latency. At least this is true since uninstalling MSI Afterburner.

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Christmas is ruined :sob:

Have you noticed thay both the Grinch and Nvidia are green? :wink:

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Can this idiot be banned?

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Flag him.
Off topic at best.

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He has been suspended and we are discussing this issue.

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Also, it can be nvidia drivers problem.

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i accidentally had msi afterburner with riva tuner opened,and i pretty much been able to replicate this described issue exactly as you guys says,luckily it goes away when i turned it off,there is definetly something wrong.

I just experienced the latency issue much more strongly than I have before. It was quite bad and disorienting, and I suspect that this is what posters who have talked about as an apparently worse version of the problem have been experiencing.

I had a number of applications open at the time. In particular I’m suspicious of the VRChat Creator Companion application that I was running for the first time. I closed everything in rapid fire fashion and the latency went back to “normal” in the SteamVR void (which is to say that it still experiences some abnormal latency, but only in that void, not when running a real game).

In hindsight, I should have applied remedies more methodically to try to isolate the cause. But I was a little too concerned with making it go away at the time.

The upshot of this is that it could be another data point in terms of how to at least not have the latency so badly. It seemed to have been affected by other applications which were running which I would not have expected to have any such effect.

I suspect that we’re not all actually experiencing the same problem. I think there may actually be multiple problems that were brought up by the nVidia driver changes for the 40 series. All of them increase latency cumulatively, but they have different causes and remedies.

I think this may be why we’ve had such conflicting reports and why it’s been hard to nail down symptoms and workarounds. Some people don’t experience it at all. Some have experienced latency, but then uninstalling MSI Afterburner completely fixed it. But for others, that didn’t fix it. Etc etc. In some cases remedies at least reduced the latency (suggesting that one of the problems was, in fact, fixed. But at least one more problem remains in effect). In other cases, remedies didn’t improve it at all (suggesting the fix is for a problem that particular PC wasn’t having even though it fixed latency for other PCs).

Just a thought. Not sure if it’s meaningful versus just waiting for updated drivers that fix the latency issues completely.

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I finally got my hands on a 4090 - Asus TUF OC, and I think I have the same issue.

Fast head movements result in very minor view mismatches- Just enough that you have to try hard to say exactly what it is, but the motion sickness is there for sure even though I’m doing nothing else than staring a menu screen in plain SteamVR with black background.

And to think I just built a full PC for this setup… sigh.

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Yes that sounds like the latency issue. Even if it isn’t obvious, your brain will subconsciously spot it and give you motion sickness.

Still no fix or update from Pimax or Nvidia.

Sounds more like the issue I’m having, no latency, just everything jumping about slightly when I move my head fast.

I think this has already been mentioned, but for those having the issue with the display in the HMD jumping around when you move your head, definitely try disabling and/or uninstalling your monitoring software and/or overclocking software. In my case I’ve found that disabling FPS VR resolves this particular issue. It’s too bad as that makes it very hard to tweak things and FPS VR has so many useful features. Sure hope this eventually gets fixed somewhere along the line as it a tremendously valuable tool.

Yeah it has been explored. It took Nvidia awhile to acknowledge this issue. The question for those whom gpu monitoring software is not fixing the issue by disabling. Is when a proper fix will be released?

Well - when I look into the official release notes of the latest driver 528.02 from yesterday, I cannot really think the issue is acknowledged:

It’s not that you’re not right and that NVidia didn’t acknowledge the issue internally somehow somewhere somewhen - but it’s somewhat symptomatical how “niche” VR still is - and perhaps even a bit more again than two or three years ago… => Not even a single line about this issue, although it is known, widespread and acknowledged.

In this point totally in contrast to AMD which really already mentioned their VR issue in the release notes mid December.


Has anyone already tried the new 528.02 with the 4080/4090? Is the issue gone perhaps… on the q.t. …?

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Well from what I recall a couple of the users in this topic have had Nvidia support acknowledged it.

Amd is more often more open on issues and things in general.

Nvidia release notes as you said with VR still being niche. Nvidia likely didn’t list it as there are not many truly hi res vr hmds out there. As lower res hmds don’t seem to be affected.

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