Well actually, I can send you mine if you like? From the Netherlands, shouldn’t take too long really.
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Thanks! Let me just ask the team first, if they can’t send one the upcoming days, then I will borrow yours. Much appreciated!
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Awesome thanks for following this up guys I’m very excited to see direct comparisons to the 4k.
There really are so many different variables between all the HMDs and the right choice really depends on what you are using it for the most.
I’m looking for something that will give me the best flight sim experience which I would prtobably put in order of importance; clarity > SDE > 6DOF head tracking > ghosting > FOV.
The more direct comparisons by the same person will really help people make the best choice for them. Pimax wouldn’t be the same without it’s community trying to get the most out of these HMDs.
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There is some key factors with comparing the 8k+ with the p4k.
Pimax 4k Specs
- 95° FoV
- Aspherical Lenses
- 1080p & 1440p Upscaling to 4k at 60hz
- Rainbow RGB Panel
The Aspherical Lenses with Different Focal distance combined with Rainbow RGB panel can make a significant difference in itself for picture quality.
While the PPI of the 8k+ is likely the same as the P4k. The P4k has a higher Projected PPI in the viewed image due to being compressed in a 95° Wide FoV vs if we switch the 8k+ over to Small FoV at 120° Wide FoV
Small FoV would be best to compare the 8k+ vs the P4k as the base displayed Res will be similar and chew similar GPU resources. This is also best way to compare with HP Reverb.
Imho based on the 5k+ RGB stripe the Rainbow RGB pattern gives a better image based on the comparing pixel layout with P4k.
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Yes Voodoodx did say the 8k+ is not a big upgrade in his opinion. Likely a good metaphore would be to compare say an Intel i5 6500 vs i5 6600.
Aspherical Lenses and 95° Wide FoV. Higher projected ppi and Rainbow RGB panel.
A more interesting experiment would be to use a new 4k panel and scaler in the old p4k housing and remove the shutter glass.
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good points, for now i can check with small FOV, haven’t done that yet, just for science 
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I can absolutely not agree there though.
The 8K+ is way better than 5K+ in terms of details, readability, SDE and even distortion. My TTL images speak for themselves and people at VR Berlin and VR Space (who only tested 8K+) all said its way better.
It doesn’t help Voodoo with the facts:
- he used an early pre-production unit in 75Hz
- Old Pitool with many improvements missing such as proper default resolution
- he was not aware of MaxRecommendedResolution
- old firmware had old distortion profile
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A really bad example as these 2 CPUs would make NO DIFFERENCE whatsoever in 99.9% of all VR games
This is why I went for the 8KX. I love wide FOV but I loved my resolution of the 4K so much that upscaled images were a bit of a bummer.
But then again, I don’t have a beast of a PC so I folded.
And seeing how slow VR really evolved, being an early 4K owner was pretty badass. Everyone was enjoying 6dof with potato res while I was flying space sims perfectly fine with futuristic resolution. While thinking it was a cheap Chinese headset. It was but still pretty great. And combined with a Kinect and Leap Motion I had a good time.
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The 8KX is of course way better in my opinion.
But comparing 8K+ to 5K+ in Aerofly FS2 is like a night and day difference. At least if you know what you are doing when it comes to settings.
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@SweViver We need to fly together in DCS World.
Not only is Voodoo saying this, I am reading many similar comments on this forum from the first users who received it, and expected more. Perhaps only those who were very attentive to SDE appreciate it.
My doubt and reflection is this: If there is little difference between 8k+ and 5k+ … and if many say Artisan has an SDE and distortion better than 5k+ then as a first Pimax maybe I should take an Artisan instead of an 8k+ ?
I’m not interested in flight simulators, except Elite Dangerous … does the price difference between 8k + and Artisan really make sense?
I’d like an your suggestion…taking also in consideration that I have a 1080 as GPU
Worth difference between Artisan e 8k+ to buy a new GPU to allow 8k+ to work properly?
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With the 8k+ you will at least get less RGB striping in your overlays and such.
Of course if backers had tried the 8k after all the pitool and firmware improvements many would have stuck with the 8k over the 5k.
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You missed the boat. The metaphor has nothing to do with VR. It has to do with comparing 2 items where one is slightly better than the other. So yes the example does fit.
Ie I have an i5 6500 is it worth it to upgrade to the i5 6600? Generally no it is not worth it for the gains you’d get.
Now it would be interesting to hear Voodoodx’s opinion now with a release model.
But I do agree with him in terms of worth. Imho if one were going to upgrade the 8kX is the better choice vs an upscaled one for real gains.
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If you dont see the difference here, then you cant blame the HMD itself
I never posted these images, taken long ago:
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ED is unforgiving to SDE, in the 8k+ all text looks solid and the clarity is very reasonable with the right settings, if you don’t care that much about SDE then there is no need to spend more then the Artisan. So it’s where your priorities are
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I’m using Vive Pro with 1.4 SS and for me it’s already great ED…I’d like get Pimax for get more FoV
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As i understand it the Artisan is on par with the Vive pro regarding SDE so you wil like it i think