Why does the Pimax 8KX: Review

There is a getting started faq that can be made more visible(it is in the table of content wiki organized by @Davebobman) But needs updating as it is getting old now now.

@SweViver and other yoytubers like @Ludiks do have some helpful videos.

But to update the getting started wiki needs more community involvement. I had did a lot of work after it was suggested. However it needs more people choosing to be involved.

Pimax Experience project Marcin is heavily working on will make things easier for folks for sure.

Here is link that has some of the links mentioned. I think the pitool links are outdated though.

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Can you post pictures of your useless toy for us to see?

We’d love to see it.

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As a community, all we can do in such cases is to provide a little technical support for the most productive comments. All we can hope to gain is to slightly improve the public perception of the VR community as a whole (note, not Pimax specifically).

There is only a little that can or should be done.

@Bananenbieger
I wish you luck for what it’s worth. Tens to thousands of hours tinkering is fairly normal from PC gamers, to PC flight sim, to PC software developers. PCs allow all kinds of hardware to be mixed and matched - vendors just cannot set a default resolution that works for all. It gets a lot easier to deal with PCs after achieving a high degree of competence. However, gaming consoles really are a good approach if you want something that just works, since the entire console is a package deal that the vendor can make consistent.

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@PimaxUSA
Your assessment is 100% correct. In precise terms, extremely impatient personalities bring out too much destruction from productive communities of less impatient persons doing constructive work in a universe that itself trends to maximum entropy. Fact. This community must minimize contact with this person. Facetiousness can be avoided by consistently taking that position.

@geoffvader
I could tell stories from serving on HacDC (501c3) BoD, and having hardware projects I was deeply involved with severely deranged. Stirring the pot like you did was outrageous and blatantly disingenuous. Stop.

@Axacuatl @geoffvader
Please do not pretend this can be generalized to any significant part of the PC VR headset userbase. Only way a PC works ‘out-of-the-box’ without even changing resolution is pure coincidence between defaults and installed hardware. Like Valve Index and top GPU. A gaming console is the right suggestion here, not Pimax Experience, not a user guide.

@SweViver
Sorry you were @ mentioned here. TLDR, even Valve couldn’t make the Index reliably support such casual use of PC hardware. Pimax is not PSVR, nothing to see here, move along.

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Nice to see people here offering help but also notice he did not ask for help, only to express his dislike for the headset, it’s quality, lack of plug n play and disappointment for the company and to suggest medical help for calling him out

If he actually wants to get his 8kx working he can put in the effort to do so, we don’t need to pander to him

Maybe his healthy herbs can enlighten him yes? Let’s see

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@Mikenz666
All true, but as I said, there is zero benefit to us by pointing these things out.

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Not completely true. Often if users used prescribed suggested settings often games will run reasonably well without the need to tweak things. It is usually when things run poorly or tries boost settings too high that things get trickier.

Sure there are games out there that have poor autodect best settings out there.

Don’t dismiss others views either that do not match your perception.

No need to minimize interactions with a user just choose the right kind of interaction to help rather than poke and belittle.

Marcin’s project is in line with Pimax’s original Aim of Piplay during the 4k days. Make VR easier for folks.

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People expect plug & play to be exactly that. A big misnomer advertising speil of PCs. Angry customers rarely ask for help when something is said to be easy to use and is not.

There is a lot of things I can do easy. That some would find very difficult.

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Pure coincidence between defaults and installed hardware.

often games will run reasonably well without the need to tweak things

Splitting hairs.

Yes, on a hit-or-miss basis, sometimes things will just work. Pimax Experience will help make things easier. Is it feasible to guarantee this with the industry in its current state? No, and there are better things to do.

Nope good programming shouldn’t be pushed aside due to many poorly coded aps.

Really, in computer terminology, ‘plug & play’ means something very different than what it means to consumers. IIRC, at the time that term started being used, it was a wonder the OS could recognize what device had just been connected and use the correct drivers at all. Instead of like, loading the matching program, to talk to the matching serial port device, as is still done to this day with more industrial equipment such as 3D printers.

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Plug & play as marketed vs how it often isn’t.

If you look at it that way, SteamVR and Oculus runtime support should not be advertised at all. Instead, Pimax should create their own VR games to play for their headsets.

Such walled gardens are of course rightly the domain of gaming consoles.

Well in that regard I have often had not too much issues using defaults.

As for oculus I am sure like a console if your only using their hardware and platform likely works quite reasonably well. Remember you can’t blame the OS if an ap is not made well to work on it.

Pimax has enough problems creating a stable driver and interface. You want them to honestly struggle more by spreading themselves thinner?

However let’s not derail this topic further with perspective philosophies.

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Ding ding! That’s precisely my point, win a prize!

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… Are You absolutely sure? Never wondered about the hammer he always brings? :thinking::flushed:

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Wow, you already caused my posts to get flagged, and here again you are accusing someone? Everyone who dares to say ANYTHING bad about pimax is a troll for you. Go figure.

I have not flagged or reported any posts. I’m assuming this is an alt account of some sort?

Sorry to hurt your feelings :cry: awww

Btw if you follow my posts you’ll see I have not been the best example of a pimax supporter, I speak for myself

Edit: here, I gave your post some flowers to cheer you up :kiss:

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Hello Dave,

Please be chill guys, there’s no point argue over the community.
Every product do have the pro and cons, is okay to give out any suggestion or so called bad reviews, we do appreciate it tho.

Just try have a friendly discussion before turning everyone into rage.

Sincerely,
Quorra.Pimax

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Do you have a picture of your 8k x you can post on here @Bananenbieger - I would like to compare some stuff on my 8K X and see what you’re coming to your conclusions. I have also had some minor issues pop up, but it seems you’re having a worse time with it and I dont know how you can even compare the quest to the 8k x. I have both and the 8k x is definitely in a different league.

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