Using the Pimax 4K with Elite Dangerous

Hey Guys,

Those of us who bought the Pimax 4K for the prime use of using it with Elite Dangerous and other VR games but could not find any way of interacting with the Elite stellar map now can with only 3 pieces of equipment and two matched pieces of very nice software. The three pieces of equipment are the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick, the Logitech G13 gameboard and a headset with microphone. The two software requirements are Voice Attack voice recognition software and the HCS ASTRA voice pack (in addition to the PiPlay, Steam VR and Frontier Developments Elite Dangerous).

Once you have installed all software and have trained the Voice Attack and adjusted the microphone volume and have a suitable computer ( i7 or i5 based with 8Gb of RAM) with a usable GPU (an nVidia GTX 970, GTX 980 or GTX 1060 or better or equivalent). The joystick should have key bindings set so that the top hat on top of the joystick changes the pips to power system engine and reset plus have Key 1 set to Fire and Key 2 to Secondary Fire. The G13 should be set up with the ASDW keys plus your up and down forward back thrust keys available and the ENTER, LSHFT, ESC and SPACE keys and configure the G13 joystick as a mouse.

Start Elite (this should also start Steam VR) and Start Voice Attack/HCS. ASTRA should welcome you back to the game on entry.

Once you are in the game (and to practice using the voice and physical controllers) give the command to ASTRA “Stellar Cartography” and you will see the Galaxy map appear (this is really amazing in the Pimax and is so real you might get a strange feeling in your head and stomach). Ok now you have a star map but you might want to go somewhere so you use your mouse (well that is one way - but it is hard to control and you might have to remove your HMD destroying the VR immersion). Instead you can use your two controls and the voice software to get to wherever you want - even if you cannot see it.

To initiate this method of control while wearing the HMD press the Secondary Fire button on the X3d (or other equivalent joystick) which will bring the focus to the menu top line press it again to move to the right onto the second tab. Now press the Fire Button which will bring the Text Field into focus.

Give ASTRA the Command “Dictation Mode On” she will acknowledge after which you can input your destination phonetically one character at a time (alpha, bravo, charlie, delta, hyphen, space 1,2,3 etc).

When you have finished entering your destination (if you make a mistake issue the command “Back Space”) issue the command “Enter Now”. This will move the on map cursor to your selected star system.

This is where you use the top hat to move the focus to the star selection and use the Fire Button to select the desired option. When you enter the system map to select the station or planet use you ASDW keys (on you G13) to move sideways and upways to your desired target and your top hat to move to the desired option then select with the Fire button. To deselect press the Fire button again (it toggles). To get back to the menu press the Secondary Fire button.

When finished give the command “Exit System Map” to ASTRA and you will be returned to the game where the joystick and the G13 return to their normal game modes.

I hope that this helps somebody as it has taken me some time and a few emails to HCS and Frontier Developments to figure this out.

Post Script - there might be another option for the non joystick controller but the kit has not yet arrived in the mail. Will let you know if it is better than the G13.

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In the options menu you have to set up your joystick to interact with starmap. Mouse is useless in VR mode, and no default controls set up in E:D for joystick interactions on starmap.

o7 commander! :wink:

Mouse in VR works without problems just need to understand how to manage it.

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Maybe you shoud explain it, becase I didn’t solve it myself in the starmap. Cannot click on any system.

It is necessary to choose around the axis of the systems and everything works fine.

Finally I found this video but my opinion is easier to set up joystick controls for starmap. Thanks anyway.

CSIPI,

I agree using the mouse is rubbish in the stellar map while wearing an HMD because the interaction changes from 2D to 3D that is why I wanted a way to type in the destination - which I described below and allows you to target any star system (even ones you cannot see). Works fine with me - a little slow spelling phonetically but better than the zoom zoom click whoops wrong star method using mouse.

You do not have to have your joystick recognised by the map for this to work but with the method described does not allow clicking on a star except via the joystick mouse on the G13 (not recommended - worse than gaming mouse) but the benefit of the G13 is that it allows up to 78 definable commands / keystrokes plus mouse without the need for a keyboard and gives you two hand command of all aspects of the game along with the voice commands (I have over 2100 set up) which are superb for gameplay especially during battles and exploration.

Your primary joystick (mine is the X3D) only needs the bindings for Fire Secondary Fire and the Top Hat dedicated to pip control in the normal game for the method to work. The G13 only needs the ASDW for the method to work but would benefit by having the G13 joystick assigned as a mouse (you can use this for Zoom Zoom Click Whoops method of close star selection) and having the up down forward back thrust keys, the X key and ESC SPACE LSFT BACKSPACE and ENTER assigned with some spare keys assigned to Power Cell, Chaff and Heatsink.

You will need to practice using the G13 and get your hands use to the key positioning because with the gogs on you cannot see anything but the game. In fact there might be a better controller than the G13 and I would like to hear about them - I am in the process of testing an alternative.

CSIPI,

In this method you do not click on stars but use the HCS Voicepack to type in the destination for you

having played over 1700 hours of ED and nearly 500 of those in pimax vr, you are right, the mouse is terrible in vr on the galaxy map, however joystick bindings work very well… as long as you tip the axis before you use the direction controls on the joystick buttons.

so go to galaxy map, and tilt down (as if you drop your camera down on the horizontal axis) then use the hat on your joystick to move left - right - forward - back , use your horizontal up and down to go up and down on the galaxy plain and to turn use the lateral thruster bindings - as you get close to a system, a blue marker will tell you if your above or below if because you have already pitched the axis at the start. as you approach that system with your bindings the target with snap to it.

to zoom in and out i use the bindings on my throttle… forward is zoom in and backwards is zoom out.

also voice attack does not need ASTRA, that is a paid voice pack from the HCS site . Personally i use KICS4 which is a professionally done by a great developer Ripley Galactic and its free to use!! you can add the dictate commands fairly easily assuming you know the system name and how its spelt! but some of them are like random chars.

Enopho,

Thanks for that.

Will have to give it a try but I will probably stay with ASTRA (seeing I have already purchased it).

not a problem, im not saying that ASTRA is a bad voice pack because it isnt! but there is a cost involved and there is none for KICS, and if it were me… pay for it on get it for free - i know which one i would choose.

but seriously, if you want some help with the joystick bindings for the galaxy and system maps, im happy to help.

Enopho,

Thanks for the offer regarding joystick bindings for galaxy and system maps.